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Jupit3r

09-28-2007, 10:09 PM Post subject: plo8, I'm a weak noob

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I completely froze on the turn when the scare card hit. The villain runs 45/5 stats and isn't very aggressive post flop. The hh isn't tidied up because the converter fucks up the pot and bet sizes...

** Game ID 1640245995 starting - 2007-09-29 00:24:21
** Leon [Omaha H/L] (0.50|1.00 Pot Limit - Cash Game) Real Money

- wargallow sitting in seat 1 with $81.68
- fredthorpe sitting in seat 2 with $54.50
- TheGiljotin sitting in seat 3 with $25.26 [Dealer]
- mysan67 sitting in seat 4 with $27.69
- lluigi111 sitting in seat 5 with $16.85 [Sitting out]
- jupit3r sitting in seat 6 with $125.89
- panida sitting in seat 7 with $81.11
- Sethug sitting in seat 8 with $87.06
- makarov244 sitting in seat 9 with $128.82
- Voland sitting in seat 10 with $61.10

mysan67 posted the small blind - $0.50
jupit3r posted the big blind - $1.00
** Dealing card to jupit3r: 10 of Clubs, 7 of Spades, 9 of Clubs, 8 of Hearts
panida folded
Sethug folded
makarov244 called - $1.00
Voland called - $1.00
wargallow called - $1.00
fredthorpe called - $1.00
TheGiljotin folded
mysan67 called - $1.00
jupit3r checked

** Dealing the flop: Jack of Diamonds, 7 of Diamonds, 10 of Spades
mysan67 checked
jupit3r checked
makarov244 bet - $3.00
Voland folded
wargallow called - $3.00
fredthorpe folded
mysan67 folded
jupit3r raised - $18.00
makarov244 folded
wargallow called - $18.00

Yay I hit a straight now it's time to protect my hand with a c/r. This good?

** Dealing the turn: 2 of Diamonds
jupit3r checked
wargallow checked

I'm pretty sure he has the flush here but when he checks I put him on a set.

** Dealing the river: 8 of Diamonds
jupit3r checked
wargallow bet - $45.00
jupit3r folded
wargallow mucks:
wargallow wins $87.75 from the main pot

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KoRnholio

09-28-2007, 11:08 PM

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Ahh the nut straight.. such an awkward hand (especially out of position) in Omaha. I would lead this flop, call a raise and look for a non-scare card on the turn.

The problem with check-raising is that it basically announces your hand and lets people take advantage of any scare cards that hit (either for value or as a bluff).

Because there was no raise preflop, your check-raise doesn't get enough money into the pot to cut down on any implied odds the opponents behind you will have with any draw they might have. Certainly no one is folding a set or flush draw when in position and deep stacks still.

Some days it feels like I've been standing forever, waiting for the bank teller to return so I can cash in all these Sklansky Bucks.

salsa4ever

09-29-2007, 01:03 AM

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don't play shit like 789T and you won't have this problem.

It's a *really* shitty hand. Think about it on the flop; is there a single card that's actually good for you? Diamonds put the flush on board. QKA puts a higher straight on. 2 lows put a low on. A pair puts a full house on.

There is no combination of turn and river cards that could come which will give you the nut hand and leave you only half.

Therefore, fold PF

edit: fuck I didn't see he was BB free flop. NH then.

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KoRnholio

09-29-2007, 06:52 AM

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Hero is the BB in unraised pot. Locked into playin it so I think playing it slowish is the way to go. out of position sucks especiallty in the game of draws known as omahaa. If this makes no sense, blame italian red wine.

Some days it feels like I've been standing forever, waiting for the bank teller to return so I can cash in all these Sklansky Bucks.

TLR

09-29-2007, 05:42 PM

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I think I flat call the flop and see the turn card, if it is not a scary card then I pot it.
The problem with your hand is that any diamond, J,Q,K,A is a bad card for you.
BTW given that you hold a 7 and a T reduced the chance of a set

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