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Acerbic
Old 02-12-2009, 10:09 PM     Post subject: PLO8 Freeroll #1 (permalink)  
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Hi, new to the forum and this is my first post, so unfortunately I cannot use the hand converter, so the hand history is in text. Apologies in advance

First time playing with villain, so I do not have any reads on him or know his understanding of the game. Few bits of information I did have was his VPIP was around 31% with aggression around .58. His play seemed pretty straight forward, not tricky. He is the BTN so he has position the whole hand.

MP1 ($25.05)
MP2 ($26.40)
MP3 ($23.60)
CO ($22.90)
Button ($51.40)
Hero (SB) ($25.80)
BB ($15.65)
UTG ($26.05)
UTG+1 ($26.05)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 6h, 4c, 5s, 3h
4 folds, MP3 calls $0.25, 1 fold, Button calls $0.25, Hero calls $0.15, BB checks

Flop: ($1) 2c, Ad, 3c(4 players)
Hero bets $0.95, 1 fold, MP3 calls $0.95, Button calls $0.95

Turn: ($3.85) Qd (3 players)
Hero bets $3, MP3 calls $3, Button raises to $7, Hero raises to $24.60 (All-In)



Results:

{Edited by DrMcBoy}

So I flop wheel with a redraw to a higher straight, but I don’t really like the 2 clubs, so I lead right out to protect my hand and see who has a piece of the flop.

I don’t like that fact the 2 flat callers, so think the flush draw is out there, and possibly someone else with a wheel.

Turn is good and bad. I still have the best hand, the club flush draw missed, but now some one might have backed into a diamond draw.

I try to protect my hand once more by leading out, and MP3 flats again, but the BTN raises. I just shove to get MP3 out, and the BTN calls.

My questions are related to how you would play the turn.

1. Anyone checking the turn to keep the pot small?

2. Anyone only flat calling the BTN raise and evaluate river?

3. Any other way to play this hand?

Seems lately I have been on the losing end of these freerolls, so any thoughts on detecting when you are getting freerolled and getting away from the hand?
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Old 02-12-2009, 10:20 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Welcome to FTR. We don't have many PLO8 players but hopefully a couple others will reply.

Please don't post results, you will get better replies and improve your thinking process.

Hand looks fine to me regardless of buy in, in a free roll for sure.
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Old 02-12-2009, 11:11 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Doc, it's not a freeroll HH, he's freerolling

also, I'm lol'ing that you didn't get that

I iz bored
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Old 02-13-2009, 01:26 AM #4 (permalink)  
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I only read the hand up to the turn

I think the PF call is questionable but for 15 cents in the small blind and 3456 it's worth a shot.

On the flop, it's never too bad to just bet it out, you might only get called by a 45xx but at low stakes anything can happen, and if you are against vanilla 45xx you want to escalate the pot rather than both end up slow playing and against 45+flush draw your wrap straight is not doing too bad.


On the turn, u still got the nuts and I would raise hoping to knock out any random draws the 3rd player got. You've got the nuts now and with the 6, you can never be in very bad shape. If you end up get 1/6th up against two 45s with different flush draws, well that happens sometimes.

So I think the hand is played pretty good

Spenda, he could be free-*rolled* by 45+ flush or worse a 456+(up to 2) flush draws. His hand ain't that good, but I'm not getting away from it for sure.

Even though I can sense the danger of two flushes and action that suggests at least one other person holds 45xx, the fact that you can never be counterfeited (so you'll always get at least half your money back) + the low stakes + a chance at getting 3/4s yourself with the 6 + the chance that at least one of the other two doesn't have a high means I'm felting. You'll lose a little money 33% of the time (flush hits), win a little half the time (get half the pot), but 17% I reckon you'll get lucky and hit that rainbow 4/5 or villain shows up with something retarded.
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Old 02-13-2009, 02:23 AM #5 (permalink)  
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Salsa thanks for the response.

Yeah, I "rarely" play this hand out of position if there is preflop raising. As the situation was, I just completed out of the SB.

Villain ended up turning over [2d 6d 5d 4s] for flush and nutlow. I ended up getting quartered.

Just wondering if anyone can possibly check and fold the turn to heavy action because of the 2 flush draws out there and I'm certain looking to split it with at least one player.
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Old 02-13-2009, 06:33 AM #6 (permalink)  
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being confused by title > not reading hand imo
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Old 02-13-2009, 10:27 AM #7 (permalink)  
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Salsa thanks for the response.

Yeah, I "rarely" play this hand out of position if there is preflop raising. As the situation was, I just completed out of the SB.

Villain ended up turning over [2d 6d 5d 4s] for flush and nutlow. I ended up getting quartered.

Just wondering if anyone can possibly check and fold the turn to heavy action because of the 2 flush draws out there and I'm certain looking to split it with at least one player.
I could certainly find a fold at 400NL playing with 200BB effective stacks or with a specific read
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ray101bassman
Old 02-14-2009, 09:32 PM     Post subject: Re: PLO8 Freeroll #8 (permalink)  
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Acerbic
Hi, new to the forum and this is my first post, so unfortunately I cannot use the hand converter, so the hand history is in text. Apologies in advance

First time playing with villain, so I do not have any reads on him or know his understanding of the game. Few bits of information I did have was his VPIP was around 31% with aggression around .58. His play seemed pretty straight forward, not tricky. He is the BTN so he has position the whole hand.

MP1 ($25.05)
MP2 ($26.40)
MP3 ($23.60)
CO ($22.90)
Button ($51.40)
Hero (SB) ($25.80)
BB ($15.65)
UTG ($26.05)
UTG+1 ($26.05)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 6h, 4c, 5s, 3h
4 folds, MP3 calls $0.25, 1 fold, Button calls $0.25, Hero calls $0.15, BB checks

Flop: ($1) 2c, Ad, 3c(4 players)
Hero bets $0.95, 1 fold, MP3 calls $0.95, Button calls $0.95

Turn: ($3.85) Qd (3 players)
Hero bets $3, MP3 calls $3, Button raises to $7, Hero raises to $24.60 (All-In)



Results:

{Edited by DrMcBoy}

So I flop wheel with a redraw to a higher straight, but I don’t really like the 2 clubs, so I lead right out to protect my hand and see who has a piece of the flop.

I don’t like that fact the 2 flat callers, so think the flush draw is out there, and possibly someone else with a wheel.

Turn is good and bad. I still have the best hand, the club flush draw missed, but now some one might have backed into a diamond draw.

I try to protect my hand once more by leading out, and MP3 flats again, but the BTN raises. I just shove to get MP3 out, and the BTN calls.

My questions are related to how you would play the turn.

1. Anyone checking the turn to keep the pot small?

2. Anyone only flat calling the BTN raise and evaluate river?

3. Any other way to play this hand?

Seems lately I have been on the losing end of these freerolls, so any thoughts on detecting when you are getting freerolled and getting away from the hand?
Convert what? geez

and villian hmmmm now that s a player I have playe to many games against.

also omaha h/l is the best of all game out there and that converter u got not going to help u in this game so stick to holdem.
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Old 02-15-2009, 10:38 PM     Post subject: Re: PLO8 Freeroll #9 (permalink)  
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Convert what? geez

and villian hmmmm now that s a player I have playe to many games against.

also omaha h/l is the best of all game out there and that converter u got not going to help u in this game so stick to holdem.

Your post makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

If you don't know what I mean by hand converter, then maybe you shouldn't be commenting at all.
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Old 02-15-2009, 10:51 PM     Post subject: Re: PLO8 Freeroll #10 (permalink)  
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Convert what? geez

and villian hmmmm now that s a player I have playe to many games against.

also omaha h/l is the best of all game out there and that converter u got not going to help u in this game so stick to holdem.

Your post makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

If you don't know what I mean by hand converter, then maybe you shouldn't be commenting at all.
well now i been insulted by some one thats belong to forum and has played how many games.

sorry my post count is aweful but dear lad my poker is much better then my post count trust me.

won more dollars today then you won in last year. so find some one elese to insult please
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Old 02-15-2009, 11:01 PM #11 (permalink)  
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a hand converter ( http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php ) makes the hand easier to read when posted. It does not 'help you' in game at all, which is why OP was confused.

ray it is very difficult to read your posts and they come off with a high level of arrogance and negativity. If you're an experienced PLO8 player, great! How about some feedback on the hand OP posted.
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Old 02-15-2009, 11:08 PM #12 (permalink)  
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sorry delete all my post then an never post here again.

Thanks
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Old 02-15-2009, 11:10 PM #13 (permalink)  
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sure!
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Old 02-15-2009, 11:16 PM #14 (permalink)  
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I am here for the games and unlessyou can not insult me then I will pass on any more posting.

But Like to point out this is why some players don't post.

So congrates you outcasted myself and many nore.

TY
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Old 02-15-2009, 11:26 PM #15 (permalink)  
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I didn't insult you. You insulted another new poster. I was attempting to help you both get to some useful content for the forum.

without helpful posts or posts seeking help, you are not going to get into any free rolls. If you or others think you can troll your way to the 'games' you should save yourself the time and take it elsewhere.

Let me know if you'd still like me to delete your posts.
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Old 02-15-2009, 11:36 PM #16 (permalink)  
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thanks for the imput
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Old 02-15-2009, 11:48 PM #17 (permalink)  
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I am here for the games and unlessyou can not insult me then I will pass on any more posting.

But Like to point out this is why some players don't post.

So congrates you outcasted myself and many nore.

TY
ray

Please stop posting. With each additional post, you make yourself look and sound worse.

I have no reason to believe you have any understanding of the PLO8, or even a grasp of the English language.

Outcasted is not a word.
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Old 02-15-2009, 11:54 PM #18 (permalink)  
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thanks for making me feel welcome one this forum you really don't know how this makes me feel.

good luck to you all
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