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salsa4ever

05-25-2007, 05:25 PM Post subject: PLO high: 4 Hands

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Operation on my wisdom teeth goes smoothly! Pain less than I feared! So I'm back to the PLO tables. Here's some hands where I think my play is debateable. Obviously I'm not going to post hands where I stick it in pre flop with Aces or bet the nuts. So here we go...

******* Hand 1 ********
UTG is a good, solid player who has won about $3000 over 4270 hands. Plays 23 VPIP, hard to exploit, and has my full respect. I'm trying to clear out similar straight draws or a bare higher flush draw to increase the equity of my hand. But was the pot big enough to fight for?

Party Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $820.40
UTG+1: $316.50
CO: $167.50
Button: $221.39
SB: $87.40
Hero: $183.95

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with 4

UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, SB calls, Hero checks.

Flop: T

($8, 4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG bets $7.6, UTG+1 folds, SB calls, Hero raises to $38, UTG raises to $129.2, SB folds, Hero raises all-in $141.95, UTG calls.

Turn: 4

($375.5, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $375.5)

River: 8

($375.5, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $375.5)

Results:
Final pot: $375.5

******* Hand 2 ********
Here I choose not to flip my hand face up pre-flop by reraising. Although double suited, it certainly would not have been a bad play.

The table texture was dominated by villain. He was insanely bad, was literally trying to give money away but the cards were hitting him in the face. Had been @$2000 a bit before. The whole table knew he was a maniacal fish.

Party Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $2/$4
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $1363.19
UTG+1: $673.15
MP1: $934
MP2: $507.60
MP3: $383.10
CO: $309.70
Button: $104.30
Hero: $417
BB: $658.30

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is SB with A

UTG raises to $14, 2 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button folds, Hero calls, BB folds.

Flop: 5

($74, 5 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $71, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, CO folds, Hero raises to $355, UTG calls, MP3 folds.

Turn: 8

($855, 2 players)
Hero raises all-in $48, UTG calls.

River: Q

($951, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $951)

Results:
Final pot: $951

******* Hand 3 ********
The same villain, on a different table. In case you're wondering why the stack sizes in all the hands are so different, it's because I've been buying into the 400PLO game with $120. It's been working great, so if it ain't broke, don't fix it. My main reason for doing so is to get full value on my aces against people who will call pre-flop with trash, and not suffer the reverse implied odds in the process.

MP2 is the same villain as in hand 2. On another table though. MP1 was somewhat loose player who had been bet/folding more than usual. He liked to steal but would back down to aggression. But I didn't have much of a read on him as he'd only played about 60 hands. Can I fold a higher flush draw, or a 2 pair?

Party Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $2/$4
8 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
MP2: $507.6
UTG: $496
UTG+1: $671
MP1: $400
MP2: $200
CO: $1824.77
Button: $685.70
Hero: $282.23
BB: $464

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is SB with 3

UTG raises to $8, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, CO calls, Button folds, Hero calls, BB calls.

Flop: J

($48, 6 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG bets $24, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, CO calls, Hero raises to $165.6, 2 folds, MP1 calls, CO calls.

Turn: 9

($568.8, 3 players)
Hero raises all-in $108.63, MP1 folds, CO calls.

River: A

($786.06, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $786.06)

Results:
Final pot: $786.06

******* Hand 4 ********

Villain was 49VPIP, 28PFR, hyper aggro and just really wanted to gamble. He'd bet a lot, was bluffing, trying to run over the table. He was pretty damn bad. He's up $400 over about 250 hands, but that included a $1320 win where he went AI on the flop with 789 on a 56T 2-suited flop and won against a set and a NFD, and another hand where he won $509 when he was AI bottom 2 pair against top set and hit runner-runner flush.

I'm not entirely in my comfort zone playing so deep stacked against him though. I'd run my stack up from $120 buy-in.

Party Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $2/$4
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $476
UTG+1: $181.20
MP1: $114.30
Hero: $937.90
MP3: $666.70
CO: $641.95
Button: $1494.50
SB: $384
BB: $191.10

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is MP2 with A

3 folds, Hero calls, 2 folds, Button raises to $18, SB folds, BB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: T

($56, 3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, Button bets $53.2, BB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: A

($162.4, 2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $159.4, Hero raises to $637.6, Button folds.
Uncalled bets: $478.2 returned to Hero.

Results:
Final pot: $481.2

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Fnord

05-25-2007, 09:10 PM

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Hand 1: How's your hand stack up against a set? With the A

on the board and the bet/3-bet line I think our flush draw is almost always good. My only worry here is that we should be leading hands like this and air a lot to pick up small pots.
Hand 2: Standard LAgg abuse.
Hand 3: I fold every street. The 2 calls in front force us to have stuff like a set or draw to the nuts to want to continue because our oppponents collectivly stomp all over this hand.
Hand 4: Yeah, the money is too deep to want to fuck around. You got too deep to be comfortable, so I'm cool with jamming the pot while you're almost always good. I would look for another table or seat if you can. Giving a guy like that position can really fuck up your Christmas.

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bigspenda73

05-25-2007, 09:29 PM

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At what point does your stack have to get to for you to want to leave a table.

Or is it just against this type of opponent where you don't like being so deep.

zenbitz

05-25-2007, 10:57 PM

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3 I hate - you are too short to play crappy draws or bluff. PF would be OK if you had position.

2 is especially good if villian is bad enough to call with KK or QQ!

Fnord

05-25-2007, 11:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bigspenda73

At what point does your stack have to get to for you to want to leave a table.

Or is it just against this type of opponent where you don't like being so deep.

When a loose/aggressive/smart player has position on you and getting the best of you, you want to be short so you can commit to marginal hands or find another table. It's a matter of protecting yourself from people who will use position to out-play you.

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