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Old 03-28-2007, 02:57 AM     Post subject: PLO Fold short handed? #1 (permalink)  
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Full Tilt Poker Game #2084740446: Table Draco (6 max) - $0.05/$0.10 - Pot Limit Omaha - 22:48:32 ET - 2007/03/27
Seat 1: zenbitz ($18.10)
Seat 2: schindog67 ($15.85)
Seat 3: trill143 ($13.30)
Seat 4: hoob77 ($9.85)
Seat 5: msubulldawg ($0.50)
Seat 6: tomek322 ($5.20)
schindog67 posts the small blind of $0.05
trill143 posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to zenbitz [4d 4h Qd Qh]
hoob77 calls $0.10
msubulldawg folds
tomek322 folds
zenbitz calls $0.10
schindog67 folds
trill143 checks
*** FLOP *** [2h 4s 7h]
trill143 bets $0.35
hoob77 calls $0.35
zenbitz calls $0.35
*** TURN *** [2h 4s 7h] [9c]
trill143 bets $1.40
hoob77 calls $1.40
zenbitz raises to $4.20
trill143 raises to $12.85, and is all in
hoob77 calls $8, and is all in
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Obviously, it's $10PL so assume maximum donkage.
full table this seems like an easy fold, but short handed is it close? I figure 77, better flush draws, and big wrap+flush draws are a/i here.
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Old 03-28-2007, 03:21 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 I raise the pot on the flop, especially with position. It's a lot easier to smoke out the top set if he three bets you big after you raise. As played I think you have to call.
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Old 03-28-2007, 11:06 PM #3 (permalink)  
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I strongly considered raising flop, but I think I decided that
1) my draw was too good to blow out worse
2) I didn't want to get re-raised with 2 cards to come

I folded turn... re-raiser showed up with wrap straight draw (maybe 3456 2 hearts?) +low f/d and the caller j-high f/d + ONE pair... won when he rivered his j for 2 pair!

Good thing I stick to .05/.10 bleah.

If I have AA with Ah should I call flop or ram&jam?
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Old 03-28-2007, 11:48 PM #4 (permalink)  
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I strongly considered raising flop, but I think I decided that
1) my draw was too good to blow out worse
2) I didn't want to get re-raised with 2 cards to come
Shorthanded people will get all in with far worse hands than full ring. If someone 3-bets you big on the flop, I'd probably just run with it and go all in. By playing it fast, you will get weaker draws (such as bare A and K flush draws) to likely fold, thus giving you extra outs even if he does have top set.

With AA+nut flush draw, usually I will ram and jam it, but I've just had an insanely bad run lately at the same time as pushing a lot of these AA+flush draw hands too hard. So I'm not really sure if racing all in is the best thing. With position I would be more inclined to just call and see what develops.
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Old 03-29-2007, 10:20 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Raise pre-flop! You have a very good hand and the button. Building the pot makes this hand a lot easier to play out.

I think with flopped middle set and a crap flush draw we have to gamble here.
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I think with flopped middle set and a crap flush draw we have to gamble here.
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