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Old 05-25-2005, 01:32 AM     Post subject: Please Review my Plays #1 (permalink)  
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I just got a rakeback deal at Empire so I played there for the first time for a little less than an hour. I haven't been playing ten player ring games for a long long time now so please let me know what I should be doing different. My hand histories from Empire didnt work in the converter which sucks. Psyche - I just got them to work...

Hand 1

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K, Q.
3 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls, CO raises, 2 folds, BB calls, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (9.33 SB) 3, 6, 3 (4 players)
BB checks, MP1 checks, Hero checks, CO bets, BB folds, MP1 folds, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 5.16 BB

Do I call there or good laydown?

Hand 2

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is CO with J, A. MP2 posts a blind of $3. Hero posts a blind of $3.
UTG raises, 1 fold, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 (poster) calls, 1 fold, Hero (poster) calls, 3 folds.

Flop: (11.33 SB) Q, 6, Q (5 players)
UTG bets, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Hero folds.

Turn: (7.16 BB) T (3 players)
UTG bets, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

River: (10.16 BB) K (3 players)
UTG bets, MP1 calls, MP2 folds.

Final Pot: 12.16 BB

Results in white below:
UTG has Kd Jd (two pair, kings and queens).
MP1 has Ah Kc (two pair, kings and queens).
Outcome: MP1 wins 12.16 BB.

Correct for me to call the preflop raise for just one more small bet?

Hand 3

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 6, 6.
UTG calls, 6 folds, Button raises, 1 fold, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (6.33 SB) J, 9, 9 (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, Button bets, Hero calls, UTG folds.

Turn: (4.16 BB) 4 (2 players)
Hero bets, Button calls.

River: (6.16 BB) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

Final Pot: 6.16 BB

Results in white below:
Hero has 6d 6h (two pair, nines and sixes).
Button has 5c 5d (two pair, nines and fives).
Outcome: Hero wins 6.16 BB.

Should I have reraised preflop? Should I have bet the river?

Hand 4

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with K, Q.
6 folds, CO raises, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets, 1 fold, CO calls.

Flop: (7 SB) 8, 9, A (2 players)
Hero bets, CO folds.

Final Pot: 4 BB

Results in white below:
No showdown. Hero wins 4 BB.

Hand 5

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (8 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A, 5.
1 fold, Hero calls, 3 folds, Button calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 3, 5, J (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, Button raises, SB folds, BB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (4 BB) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 5 BB

Results in white below:
No showdown. Button wins 5 BB.

Do I showdown there like I sometimes would in my normal 5 max game, or was it ok? Should I have even entered the hand?

Hand 6

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Preflop: Hero is CO with K, Q.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, Hero calls, 2 folds, BB checks.

Flop: (3.33 SB) 7, Q, 8 (3 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, BB folds, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (2.66 BB) 3 (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, UTG+1 raises, Hero calls.

River: (6.66 BB) J (2 players)
UTG+1 bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 8.66 BB

Results in white below:
UTG+1 has Kc Qd (one pair, queens).
Hero has Kd Qc (one pair, queens).
Outcome: Hero wins 4.33 BB. UTG+1 wins 4.33 BB.

Should I have raised preflop? How dumb was my call to the end?

Hand 7

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (7 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K, J.
2 folds, Hero raises, 3 folds, BB calls.

Flop: (4.33 SB) 7, 8, 5 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls.

Turn: (3.16 BB) 9 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB raises, Hero calls.

River: (7.16 BB) 2 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls.

Final Pot: 9.16 BB

Results in white below:
Hero has Kd Jc (flush, king high).
BB has 6s 6d (flush, nine high).
Outcome: Hero wins 9.16 BB.

Just how ugly was this?

Hand 8

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (8 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with K, K.
4 folds, CO raises, 1 fold, SB calls, Hero 3-bets, CO calls, SB calls.

Flop: (9 SB) 8, A, J (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, CO raises, SB folds, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 6 BB

Results in white below:
No showdown. CO wins 6 BB.

How well did I play this?

Hand 9

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (8 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9, 8.
5 folds, Button calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (3 SB) K, 3, K (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Button checks.

Turn: (1.50 BB) 7 (3 players)
SB bets, BB folds, Button raises, SB calls.

River: (5.50 BB) 8 (2 players)
SB checks, Button bets, SB calls.

Final Pot: 7.50 BB

Results in white below:
Button has Ad 8s (two pair, kings and eights).
SB has 7s Ah (two pair, kings and sevens).
Outcome: Button wins 7.50 BB.

I'm glad I folded but.. is this worth a play? If so, I imagine I should raise right?

Hand 10

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (8 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 7, 7.
1 fold, Hero calls, 5 folds, BB checks.

Flop: (2.33 SB) 3, K, 5 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB folds.

Final Pot: 1.66 BB

Results in white below:
No showdown. Hero wins 1.66 BB.

Do I limp or raise here?

And just for kicks...

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K, K.
3 folds, Hero raises, 1 fold, CO 3-bets, 3 folds, Hero caps, CO calls.

Flop: (9.33 SB) 5, 3, T (2 players)
Hero bets, CO calls.

Turn: (5.66 BB) 4 (2 players)
Hero bets, CO calls.

River: (7.66 BB) 9 (2 players)
Hero bets, CO calls.

Final Pot: 9.66 BB

Results in white below:
Hero has Kd Ks (one pair, kings).
CO has 9c 9h (three of a kind, nines).
Outcome: CO wins 9.66 BB.

What a numnut CO was - tee hee. Ok that's enough for now. Any comments on any of the hands would be appreciated.
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Old 05-25-2005, 01:37 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Old 05-25-2005, 02:03 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Maybe - but it looked like I was actually tighter than most. And the play was absolutely horrible!! I was just screwing around and ended up 8BB. Funniest hand which I didn't show since (ok so maybe I showed it once I got the converter to work) I know I played it fine was another KK I had which I 3bet (and maybe I actually 2 bet and then capped it) preflop and it got called by one player with 99. He called me down to the river. The river was a 9. I bet the whole way, including the river and he JUST called with hi card T on board and only TT and a gutshot str8 as hands that could beat him. Gotta love that play.
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Old 05-25-2005, 02:07 AM     Post subject: Re: Please Review my Plays #4 (permalink)  
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Hand 1
raise or fold pre flop. raise or fold on the flop

Hand 2
fold pre flop. AJ dosn't have enough juice to stand up to an utg raise

Hand 3
seems ok... i wuss out on the river a lot though.

Hand 4

sweet. i'd fold if he reraised you on the flop... but i'm a wuss.

Hand 5
suited aces are worth limping in full ring, but you're shooting for the flush, tough to play the ace no kicker.

Hand 6
i'd raise or fold pre flop. calling 1BB on the river dosn't seem like a problem to me. no pre flop strenght... no reason to think AQ. not much strenght later, like with a set.
Hand 7
you had a lot of outs man. seems ok to me. you cought the flush as he cought his set. perfect setup.

Hand 8

I think KK is worth a 3 bet on the flop, even with the ace. they just limped, so there *may* be some suited ace you're up against, you raised, they have to think they are out kicked.

Hand 9

only raise if you think there's a good chance everyone else will fold. just not much there to work with.

Hand 10

generaly a limp. looking for a set on the flop.

try to get the converter working.
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Old 05-25-2005, 02:07 AM #5 (permalink)  
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You is the fish.

Why you suck
Wanna be really helpful and show me what you woulda done each hand?
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Old 05-25-2005, 02:16 AM #6 (permalink)  
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TY whileone. Anyone know why the converter didn't work for Empire hands? I copied and pasted like I normally do from paradise into Bison's converter but the output box said it didn't recognize the format.
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Old 05-25-2005, 02:20 AM #7 (permalink)  
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TY whileone. Anyone know why the converter didn't work for Empire hands? I copied and pasted like I normally do from paradise into Bison's converter but the output box said it didn't recognize the format.
no problem.

maybe there was an extra line or two? i usualy skip the hand # line. it's probably sensitive to extra junk at the start, but won't care about extra stuff at the end.

Fnord's only mean because he cares so much. there is some exelent advice in that thread.
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Old 05-25-2005, 02:24 AM #8 (permalink)  
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I wasn't upset. Just wanted even more input. After thinking I had finally mastered this game about 2 months ago, I started reading this site and have gone from making money, to really making money. I'm about to print that thread (even though I've read a hundred times) and paste it next to my computer.
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Old 05-25-2005, 02:33 AM #9 (permalink)  
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Old 05-25-2005, 02:37 AM     Post subject: Re: Please Review my Plays #10 (permalink)  
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I think KK is worth a 3 bet on the flop, even with the ace. they just limped, so there *may* be some suited ace you're up against, you raised, they have to think they are out kicked.
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Old 05-25-2005, 02:47 AM     Post subject: Re: Please Review my Plays #11 (permalink)  
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I think KK is worth a 3 bet on the flop, even with the ace. they just limped, so there *may* be some suited ace you're up against, you raised, they have to think they are out kicked.
you just roll over and DIE if there's an ace on the flop? Is this a bad no limit habit? wasn't it you that posted the think about "if i raise pre flop, the ace is mine until someone tells me otherwise"

poking through my hand histories, this might be a big leak... but i've only had KK 29 times. 1 flop with an ace i won 3 flops with an ace i lost.
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Old 05-25-2005, 02:55 AM #12 (permalink)  
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He told you it wasnt yours with his raise already. The most I do is call, then check/fold the turn (unless my K comes). No one is going to lay down an A even if they are outkicked. They'll just check/call to showdown to make you prove it
Superb play sir...I always call 20% of my stack off with a gutshot draw. Excuse me while I race for my wallet.
 
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Old 05-25-2005, 02:56 AM     Post subject: Re: Please Review my Plays #13 (permalink)  
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you just roll over and DIE if there's an ace on the flop? had KK 29 times. 1 flop with an ace i won 3 flops with an ace i lost.
It depends In this case, calling down is a better line in case he's raising the Jack. Big time way ahead way behind.
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