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Old 09-03-2010, 11:33 PM     Post subject: playing super-loose weird aggro live NL Omaha #1 (permalink)  
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 mods - not sure if this is best here or in live poker?
basically, i wasn't sure how to play these games. Should I just LAG it up? or see a lot of cheap flops ip?

went to the local casino last night, main game it spreads is mixed 1-2 nlhe, 1-2 nlo. Was 8-handed most of the time I was at the table.
the holdem was straightforward enough, and the game pretty soft.

the omaha got me confused. Given how bad they were at holdem, i'm guessing they were even worse at Omaha. Every pot was a community pot, default play for the regs was to overbet shove AAxx pre and limp most other stuff. Occasionally raise it up after limpers with AKQJss type of hands. Overbet shoving made hands was standard on the flop, calling decent draws seemed default.

example hands :
1 - 3 limpers, button (online, aggro type) overbet shoves AAKJ, old loose passive snap calls AA68, rest fold. Old passive hits his straight.
2 - 4 limpers, HJ (same aggro online guy) raises it up 7x with KKJ8ss, two callers. Checked to him on KQT rainbow and he overbet shoves and the wrap calls.
3 - opened in ep 4x, 4 callers, I call (bad? 789Tss) on the button, blinds call. Flop AKQ mono, old passive shoves J2 nut flush for pot then proudly shows as everyone folds.

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don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
allin, reload, repeat

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Old 09-04-2010, 01:41 AM #2 (permalink)  
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I was playing a live game like this a while ago that I frankly wasn't bankrolled for. I played super tight/nitty pre/postflop...that's not to say i was folding any premium combo draws to the nuts but you have to remember you don't have any fold equity either. you're basically nutcamping.
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Old 09-04-2010, 07:11 PM #3 (permalink)  
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 If you don't know if you should call OTB in a family pot with T987ss (yes) you should sit out and log some hands online at much lower stakes and read/watch something about omaha. If you must play this game, play like a rock. Would you tell a brand new hold em player to "LAG it up"? Tight is right is true for every game when you're learning.

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Old 09-07-2010, 01:12 AM #4 (permalink)  
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mods - not sure if this is best here or in live poker?
basically, i wasn't sure how to play these games. Should I just LAG it up? or see a lot of cheap flops ip?

went to the local casino last night, main game it spreads is mixed 1-2 nlhe, 1-2 nlo. Was 8-handed most of the time I was at the table.
the holdem was straightforward enough, and the game pretty soft.

the omaha got me confused. Given how bad they were at holdem, i'm guessing they were even worse at Omaha. Every pot was a community pot, default play for the regs was to overbet shove AAxx pre and limp most other stuff. Occasionally raise it up after limpers with AKQJss type of hands. Overbet shoving made hands was standard on the flop, calling decent draws seemed default.

example hands :
1 - 3 limpers, button (online, aggro type) overbet shoves AAKJ, old loose passive snap calls AA68, rest fold. Old passive hits his straight.
2 - 4 limpers, HJ (same aggro online guy) raises it up 7x with KKJ8ss, two callers. Checked to him on KQT rainbow and he overbet shoves and the wrap calls.
3 - opened in ep 4x, 4 callers, I call (bad? 789Tss) on the button, blinds call. Flop AKQ mono, old passive shoves J2 nut flush for pot then proudly shows as everyone folds.

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My first thought is this: Since you and everyone new (compared to ME) to poker speaks a foreign language, can't you at LEAST provide a translation sheet, so that I can UNDERSTAND what the cluck you are SAYING??

REALLY, how do you expect to communicate with people with VAST experience AND expertiese, with things like "HJ" whatever the CLUCK that means.


I get "pre" even though I hate that term, and everything the lazy-bass use of it represents.
BUT, just suddenly throwing out an "HJ" as though I'm supposed to know what that means??

Anyway, here's your answer. Therer are many games out there, that simply do NOT work. Not every formal/structure is going to produce a good game. That is good for YOU. ANd, this is the case here. Omaha hi, simply does NOT work. Uh, DUDE do you think that could be a reason, why it is NOT spread online? Dont even BOTHER mentioning some two-bit minor site that may have it, you know what I'm talking about: MAJOR sites.

I am not willing to devote too much time to a site where no one seems to have the brains to accpreicate me. So, let's just say that the main reasons why this is so, are as follows:

(1) The total lack of being a huge favorite with ANY hand, over another hand THAT IS LIKLY TO CALL AN ALL-IN BET (known in the language of YOUR planet, as "shove")

Yeah, AA27 double suit, is like a HUGE favoirite over KK27 unsuit, BUT the later is NOT likly to call an STACK-OFF bet (again, this is a proper term for an all in bet)

HOW the CLUCK ever . . . . . a hand that is a tiny favorite, or a RElativly close controntation (Ed note: This is ATE's original term, in your language it means "coin flip" But, coin flip is an ASSININE term, and usually doen'st even actually apply. ONLY if it's like one or two percent MAX in difference, should "coin flip" be used. Otherwise, it is NOT a close call, billion dollar casinos are built on less of an edge, than what passes for "coinflips"

(2) Inspite of the fact that the TOTALLY IDIOTIC way to play the g ame, is to go all in each and every time, inspite of the facts of the hand, and the money (or lack thereof) already in the pot, MOST of the s tooges out there hav e NO problem "shoving" in a massive stack, with each and every AAxx they pick up,.
AND THIS KILLS THE GAME, totally.

See, the IDEA of all omaha games, is to HIT SOMETHING. NOT just you have kings, they had jacks, BEFOREflop (known in your language as "pre")

This is not the idea of omaha, simply because it's like a GAjillion times easier to actually hit a hand.

TOTALLY kills the game. Now, in a game with same 2,000xbb max buy in, this would not be bad, as you could afford to just wait u ntil YOU have the monster AAdouble suit, and hope some stooge goes all in with ace ace crap crap.

Even then, you would not be a major favorite, so it's still unlikly that the amount you'd have to blind and ante, would not exceed the (long-term expectation, if

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Old 09-07-2010, 03:01 AM #6 (permalink)  
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don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
allin, reload, repeat

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 just wat the CLUCK is going on in here?
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