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DocRazor
Old 11-25-2007, 10:23 PM     Post subject: Playing Pocket Pairs #1 (permalink)  

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First post on this board. I've been playing .1/.2 limit over the last few weeks and have been doing well. I'm having problems with PP's like 99s and TTs. If anybody could look over the following hands and maybe give some advice, it would be great.

Hand 1
CD Poker Urtaso 0.10/0.20, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker

saw flop | saw showdown

Button Button ($3.67)
SB ($5.61)
BB BB ($9.38)
UTG Hero ($6.41)
UTG+1 ($4.99)
MP ($15.30)
MP ($8.43)
MP ($8.11)
CO-1 ($1)
CO ($8.04)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Td Ts
Hero raises to 0.20, 6 folds, Button raises to 0.30, 1 fold, BB calls 0.20, Hero calls 0.10.
Flop (1.05) 8c Ad 7c
BB checks, Hero bets 0.10, Button calls 0.10, BB calls 0.10.
Turn (1.35) 7s
BB checks, Hero bets 0.20, Button calls 0.20, BB calls 0.20.
River (1.95) 3h
BB checks, Hero checks, Button checks

**Reads
Didn't have any real reads on BB or BTN. I had seen the BTN showdown a few hands with SC's

Hand 2
CD Poker Urtaso 0.10/0.20, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker

saw flop | saw showdown
Button ($5.41)
SB Hero ($5.81)
BB BB ($5.26)
UTG ($14.90)
UTG+1 ($8.28)
MP ($7.86)
MP ($1.23)
CO-1 ($8.23)
CO CO ($3.16)

Preflop: Hero is in the SB with Th Td
5 folds, CO calls 0.10, 1 fold, Hero raises to 0.15, BB raises to 0.20, CO calls 0.20, Hero calls 0.10.
Flop (0.90) 8d 3h Qd
Hero bets 0.10, BB calls 0.10, CO calls 0.10.
Turn (1.20) Tc
Hero bets 0.20, 2 folds

**Reads
CO is the same player as the BTN in the previous hand. Plays fairly loose and anything with a face card. BB is a new player that is playing the first hand and I have no stats for him.

Hand 3
CD Poker Gosport 0.10/0.20, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker

saw flop | saw showdown
Button ($4.70)
SB ($2.05)
BB ($6.22)
UTG ($21.08)
UTG+1 UTG+1 ($6.25)
MP Hero ($5.89)
MP ($4.36)
CO-1 ($5.37)
CO ($0.34)

Preflop: Hero is in MP with Ts Tc
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to 0.20, Hero calls 0.20, 6 folds.
Flop (0.55) 3s Qh 2c
UTG+1 bets 0.10, Hero calls 0.10.
Turn (0.75) 6s
UTG+1 bets 0.20, Hero calls 0.20.
River (1.15) 2d
UTG+1 bets 0.20, Hero calls 0.20

**Reads
UTG+1 is a huge calling station, with almost every possible hand.

Hand 4
CD Poker Urtaso 0.10/0.20, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker

saw flop | saw showdown
Button ($5.63)
SB ($6.07)
BB ($3.79)
UTG UTG ($2.26)
UTG+1 UTG+1 ($7.79)
MP ($2.82)
MP ($5.84)
MP ($5.07)
CO-1 Hero ($12.14)
CO ($20.54)

Preflop: Hero is in the CO-1 with 9d 9s
UTG calls 0.10, UTG+1 calls 0.10, 3 folds, Hero raises to 0.20, 4 folds, UTG calls 0.10, UTG+1 calls 0.10.
Flop (0.75) 7d 6d 8d
UTG bets 0.10, 1 fold, Hero raises to 0.20, UTG calls 0.10.
Turn (1.15) 2c
UTG bets 0.20, Hero calls 0.20.
River (1.55) Js
UTG bets 0.20, Hero calls 0.20

**Reads
UTG is another calling station. VPIP/PFR is 92.2/4.7 on approx. 300 hands.

Hand 5
CD Poker Gosport 0.10/0.20, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker

saw flop | saw showdown
Button Button ($8.26)
SB ($0.46)
BB ($6.80)
UTG ($21.14)
UTG+1 ($7.36)
MP Hero ($7.78)
CO-1 ($6.13)
CO ($3.82)

Preflop: Hero is in MP with 9c 9h
2 folds, Hero raises to 0.20, 2 folds, Button calls 0.20, 2 folds.
Flop (0.55) 8h Qd Ad
Hero bets 0.10, Button calls 0.10.
Turn (0.75) 6s
Hero bets 0.20, Button calls 0.20.
River (1.15) Jh
Hero checks, Button bets 0.20, Hero calls 0.20

**Reads
BTN is 81.1/11.1. Plays almost everyhand and after the flop only raises on sets or better hands.H
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Old 11-26-2007, 09:58 AM #2 (permalink)  
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What the hell?

Quote:
0.10/0.20
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Quote:
Hero raises to 0.20, 6 folds
= Find new table


Sorry I cant make a more constructive post about te specific hands right now.
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Old 11-26-2007, 04:57 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Too many hands in one post although I understand the common topic. Just one note on #4: I don't think it's profitable to raise 99 after two limpers even if UTG+1 is as loose as UTG.
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Old 11-26-2007, 06:58 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Yeah a few too many hands to respond to all together.

That said it looks like you held onto your TT a bit too long in a couple of hands. So many people will go to flop with any ace at all that it is rarely worth calling down an ace flop with a weaker pair.
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Old 11-29-2007, 06:00 PM #5 (permalink)  
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go all in with AA KK QQ
NO MORE SLOW PLAY....GOT beeat always......sucks
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Old 11-29-2007, 06:27 PM #6 (permalink)  
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go all in with AA KK QQ
NO MORE SLOW PLAY....GOT beeat always......sucks
how do you go AI in limit? unless you are playing a MTT or STT you should never find yourself in a spot where you don't have enough money to put in 12bb in one hand if need be...
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DocRazor
Old 11-30-2007, 05:48 AM #7 (permalink)  

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go all in with AA KK QQ
NO MORE SLOW PLAY....GOT beeat always......sucks
Not sure what that has to do with my original post???

Next time I won't post as many hands in one post. The iPoker hand converter makes it look extremely long as well.

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That said it looks like you held onto your TT a bit too long in a couple of hands
Very true. I think actually most of the hands I held onto too long. I went looking back at all the PP's from 77-TT in my PT database and realized that on all the ones that were unimproved with the flop I held onto them too long. Interestingly enough, of the 5 hands I posted I won the pot on 4. I still feel I played them poorly though.
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Old 11-30-2007, 05:48 PM #8 (permalink)  
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Originally Posted by DocRazor
I think actually most of the hands I held onto too long. I went looking back at all the PP's from 77-TT in my PT database and realized that on all the ones that were unimproved with the flop I held onto them too long. Interestingly enough, of the 5 hands I posted I won the pot on 4. I still feel I played them poorly though.
It's great to avoid being "results-oriented" even when the play(s) worked this time. However, if you got the right odds or made the right reads you may have played them well. I think a hand light TT starts with decent equity and even as the board deteriorates you may still have the best hand, the questions are how often and how much you have to pay to find out.
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Old 12-11-2007, 12:59 PM #9 (permalink)  
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At those limits you're going to get called preflop too often with any face card. I would bet out the flop then check call down if you have backdoor draws or if you're certain you're dealing w/ player that will semi bluff his way down. Otherwise, checkfold if there is an overcard and a soft player is betting/raising into you. Remember, these are the same players that will pay your tptk off later on - don't pay them back.
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