Playing Low Pockets

**Phineas Gage** · 12-28-2010 11:02 AM

I get in this situation a lot, would love some advice.

What would you do in this situation:

Short handed table, you are small blind, and dealt 33. Person in first position raises, folds to you. You and the big blind call. Flop comes:

7h 2d Qc all of different suits.

You check, big blind checks, the raiser bets. You limp big blind folds.

Turn comes

9h

You check, raiser bets. You fold.

Is there anything wrong with that play?

**StarGrinder** · 12-28-2010 04:10 PM

Go all in, ldo.

**Ragnar4** · 01-02-2011 12:47 AM

Whole hand is played Poorly.

Pre-flop, you're OOP, and you need at least 8-1 to seek your set, Sure you're getting 3.5-1 right now, but being oop, you can't guarantee you'll get to 8-1. If there was another caller in the mix, Just one more caller in there, and it's worth taking a look.

Pre is not terrible or a major leak, but it is worth a consideration. If the Villain was extremely tight, it's a loser, if villain is relatively lose, and prone to calling down to river it's BE, if Villain will mix it up with you, then it's a winner.

The flop is atrocious. you need to be getting 23-1 in order to justify that call. May as well be burning money.

**euphoricism** · 01-03-2011 11:56 PM

Completing pre ain't bad, since you do have a third player in the hand. But easy flop fold. Several reasons:

1. Even if you're ahead now, you probably won't be by showdown without improving.
2. Bad odds on the 2-outter.
3. Dry dry board. Villain is likely to have nothing or near-nothing with which to pay you off.

So yeah low pps tend to be a big leak for lhe players. So tempting to play, but so easy to take too far.

**euphoricism** · 01-03-2011 11:59 PM

Wait wait, I missed that it was raised pre. Definite fold preflop.

**johnmatthew** · 12-01-2011 07:17 PM

NO idea about that

**CF_BOBBO** · 12-03-2011 05:31 PM

Never fold a pair pre, then again thats why I am a losing limit player.

12-28-2010 11:02 AM #1
Phineas Gage View Profile View Forum Posts Join Date Dec 2010 Posts 1	Playing Low Pockets I get in this situation a lot, would love some advice. What would you do in this situation: Short handed table, you are small blind, and dealt 33. Person in first position raises, folds to you. You and the big blind call. Flop comes: 7h 2d Qc all of different suits. You check, big blind checks, the raiser bets. You limp big blind folds. Turn comes 9h You check, raiser bets. You fold. Is there anything wrong with that play?

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12-28-2010 04:10 PM #2
StarGrinder View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Jul 2010 Posts 800	Go all in, ldo.

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01-02-2011 12:47 AM #3
Ragnar4 View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Sep 2005 Posts 3,195 Location Billings, Montana	Whole hand is played Poorly. Pre-flop, you're OOP, and you need at least 8-1 to seek your set, Sure you're getting 3.5-1 right now, but being oop, you can't guarantee you'll get to 8-1. If there was another caller in the mix, Just one more caller in there, and it's worth taking a look. Pre is not terrible or a major leak, but it is worth a consideration. If the Villain was extremely tight, it's a loser, if villain is relatively lose, and prone to calling down to river it's BE, if Villain will mix it up with you, then it's a winner. The flop is atrocious. you need to be getting 23-1 in order to justify that call. May as well be burning money.
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01-03-2011 11:56 PM #4
euphoricism View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Mar 2005 Posts 5,365 Location Your place or my place	Completing pre ain't bad, since you do have a third player in the hand. But easy flop fold. Several reasons: 1. Even if you're ahead now, you probably won't be by showdown without improving. 2. Bad odds on the 2-outter. 3. Dry dry board. Villain is likely to have nothing or near-nothing with which to pay you off. So yeah low pps tend to be a big leak for lhe players. So tempting to play, but so easy to take too far.
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euphoricism View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Mar 2005 Posts 5,365 Location Your place or my place	Wait wait, I missed that it was raised pre. Definite fold preflop.
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12-03-2011 05:31 PM #7
CF_BOBBO View Profile View Forum Posts Join Date Nov 2011 Posts 1 Location Troy NY	Never fold a pair pre, then again thats why I am a losing limit player.

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