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08-25-2008, 09:10 AM
Post subject: Playing live $3/6 in Vegas
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First of all, I think it's beatable because the rake was 10% but the players were terrible except for a TAG or two.
Question 1: Am I wrong here? I can beat microstakes online for more than double the rake (see $.5/$1 stats) and this table played very micro-stake-like.
I tried to play PF the same way as SSH describes for a very loose table, but the problem was that I didn't get any suited aces/kings/connectors so I ended up folding for hours at a time and only coming in with premium hands. I seriously had J7o on the button, 84s UTG and all this crap that I'm not really supposed to play even on a loose table.
Question 2: Should I open up even more and add hands that SSH considers unplayable? For example, A9o in LP seemed really good against donks that call down bottom pair on an ace-high board.
So my image was a super-nit that only bet a set or better... because those were the only hands I showed down. Of course the donks still called after I didn't play a hand for an hour and suddenly woke up for a raise.
So the occasional TAG would only 3bet me with like AA/KK since my "range" appeared to be JJ+/AKs (only hands I showed down) when in reality I'd raise QTs from LP... just didn't get those hands that often. My chips grew cobwebs...
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Fnord
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If you look around a bit more, there are soooo many better games in vegas.
Like 4/8 spread with a single $2 blind.
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I don't get spread limit, what's the point of betting below the max? I've never played that kind of a game.
In the casino I went to they only had 3/6 and the rest of the games were NL. I didn't even have a full buy-in on me and I didn't feel like paying ATM fees. FIVE DOLLARS?? WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
not to mention fails fargo would charge 2 dollars from my account for using a non-wells faggo atm
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by iopq
I don't get spread limit, what's the point of betting below the max? I've never played that kind of a game.
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It's 4/8 with a single freak'n $2 blind and 6 way flops. Think about it. Oh yeah, and the donks can bet less than the max. How can you not beat that game?
Next time bring a lot of your friends Ben and Franklin with you.
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Ragnar4
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the most important thing about spread limit Iopq, is that the turn bet DOES NOT DOUBLE.
So you can draw lighter, and valuebet against draws a lot more. Spread limit games are so juicy it hurts. It's the only game I consistently kill.
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The older I get, the more I start wondering; Just what in the hell is going on here? 
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socal1111
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You definitely need to be playing A90 in CO and BTN in those games.
Use your post-flop edge to figure out whether or not your Ace is good when you hit the flop. Giving up too much folding that hand late (in those specific games).
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Ragnar4
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Oh yeah, and don't play 3/6 if a 4-8 game is present. 3/6 is in super limbo land. People who break-even at 3/6 full ring are consistent winners at 5/10 and 4/8....
Why?
Because the rake is brutal at 3/6. It's almost too hard to beat
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The older I get, the more I start wondering; Just what in the hell is going on here?
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Originally Posted by Ragnar4
Oh yeah, and don't play 3/6 if a 4-8 game is present. 3/6 is in super limbo land. People who break-even at 3/6 full ring are consistent winners at 5/10 and 4/8....
Why?
Because the rake is brutal at 3/6. It's almost too hard to beat
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How is 10% more brutal than 4/8? Isn't 4/8 also 10%?
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KoRnholio
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by iopq
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Originally Posted by Ragnar4
Oh yeah, and don't play 3/6 if a 4-8 game is present. 3/6 is in super limbo land. People who break-even at 3/6 full ring are consistent winners at 5/10 and 4/8....
Why?
Because the rake is brutal at 3/6. It's almost too hard to beat
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How is 10% more brutal than 4/8? Isn't 4/8 also 10%? |
Because in loosey-goosey live games where pots get huge and the max rake (say $4 for example) is usually taken. In a 4/8 game this amounts to half a BB. In a 3/6 game this is 2/3 of a BB.
So in stakes relative terms, you're paying 17% more rake on the big pots at 3/6 compared to 4/8.
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Some days it feels like I've been standing forever, waiting for the bank teller to return so I can cash in all these Sklansky Bucks.
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Chopper
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tip that you've found a great game...
when the lady to your left tells you that you should be playing hands like 67o from early on just because if you dont, "you arent eligible for the BBJ anymore."
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LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.
Nothing beats flopping quads while dropping a duece!
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