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Old 12-30-2010, 06:10 AM     Post subject: PL100 rush: a few hands #1 (permalink)  
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 Three pretty marginal spots. Thoughts?

Hand 1:

Full Tilt - $1 PL Hi RUSH (6 max) - Omaha - 6 players
BB: $208.40
UTG: $95.50
MP: $118.70
Hero (CO): $143.55
BTN: $131.35
SB: $92.00
SB posts SB $0.50, BB posts BB $1.00
Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero has K J A K
UTG calls $1.00, MP raises to $4.50, Hero calls $4.50, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls $3.50
Flop: ($15.00, 3 players) 3 J 4
UTG bets $15.00, MP calls $15.00, Hero raises to $75.00, UTG raises to $91.00 and is all-in, MP raises to $114.20 and is all-in, Hero calls $39.20


Hand 2: Villain is 21/14 3bet 4%, cbet 100% over 58 hands

Full Tilt - $1 PL Hi RUSH (6 max) - Omaha - 6 players
BTN: $106.95
SB: $77.40
BB: $125.85
UTG: $222.60
Hero (MP): $113.25
CO: $221.05
SB posts SB $0.50, BB posts BB $1.00
Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero has 6 8 9 4
fold, Hero raises to $3.50, CO raises to $12.00, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls $8.50
Flop: ($25.50, 2 players) 3 9 Q
Hero checks, CO bets $21.00, Hero raises to $88.50, CO raises to $156.00, Hero calls $12.75 and is all-in


Hand 3:

Full Tilt - $1 PL Hi RUSH (6 max) - Omaha - 6 players
CO: $100.00
BTN: $142.35
SB: $113.85
Hero (BB): $101.00
UTG: $257.90
MP: $105.45
SB posts SB $0.50, Hero posts BB $1.00
Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero has Q 3 A 2
fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to $2.00, Hero calls $1.00
Flop: ($4.00, 2 players) 5 3 9
SB checks, Hero checks
Turn: ($4.00, 2 players) 4
SB bets $3.00, Hero raises to $8.00, SB raises to $24.00, Hero calls $16.00
River: ($52.00, 2 players) 8
SB bets $52.00, Hero calls $52.00
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Old 12-30-2010, 06:56 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 Hand 1 - You could call flop hoping to fade a turn, and I'd probably give up on a 2, 5, 6, 7. You're blocking top set so I'd expect to see a flush and a straight draw. However, I would also expect the jam to get at least one fold, creating dead money or possibly even taking the pot down.

Hand 2 - When he calls you're probably not in great shape, but he should fold enough, and you have enough equity when called this is good. If you're not stacking on this flop you have to fold to the 3bet pre.

Hand 3 - Given the lack of flush draws I'd be tempted to just call turn. You'd get value from 99xx, I would think most hands would fold to the raise. If villains are likely to get into metagame pissing contests this might be fine, I have no idea though.
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thoughts:
my thoughts are all three of these spots are marginal, so we agree?

no, seriously, I used to think omaha was a good game to multi-table and play in rush cuz you can play it readless. however, I've completely changed my mind on this -- it's a tough enough game without being able to accumulate observations on the people you're playing.
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Old 12-31-2010, 02:20 AM #4 (permalink)  
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Hand 1 - You could call flop hoping to fade a turn, and I'd probably give up on a 2, 5, 6, 7. You're blocking top set so I'd expect to see a flush and a straight draw. However, I would also expect the jam to get at least one fold, creating dead money or possibly even taking the pot down.
We're not jamming a club turn if we flat?


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Hand 2 - When he calls you're probably not in great shape, but he should fold enough, and you have enough equity when called this is good. If you're not stacking on this flop you have to fold to the 3bet pre.
Fold pre doesn't sound like a very bad idea at all.

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Hand 3 - Given the lack of flush draws I'd be tempted to just call turn. You'd get value from 99xx, I would think most hands would fold to the raise. If villains are likely to get into metagame pissing contests this might be fine, I have no idea though.
How does he have 67?
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Old 12-31-2010, 02:22 AM #5 (permalink)  
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my thoughts are all three of these spots are marginal, so we agree?

no, seriously, I used to think omaha was a good game to multi-table and play in rush cuz you can play it readless. however, I've completely changed my mind on this -- it's a tough enough game without being able to accumulate observations on the people you're playing.
Def agree. I do think its a good place to learn the game though.
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 1) can't be terrible but would rather not have the Ac and/ or KK to do this. it would be good to run numbers and see if that makes sense, I will post some if I get back to it.

2) i play same

3) I'd be sure I was beat but also would call because it's too weird to check a hand with 67 or even 62 otf esp after raising from the SB in rush. I guess it's BvB & he could just be going crazy with set because he's tilted he slow played and the scariest card came.
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 read replies - hand 2 cont) If folding is on your mind limping is MUCH better but I don't understand why it would be. Vs 4% with an automatic c bet I would fist pump call 100% of hands I had decided to raise.
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