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Old 01-09-2006, 10:22 PM     Post subject: Peanut butter jelly time!!! #1 (permalink)  
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Is the flop call worth it here?

Hand 1
Texas Hold'em $0.15-$0.30 (real money), hand #1,691,189,174
Table Kuibyschew, 9 Jan 2006 2:39 PM ET

Seat 3: laupsa
Seat 4: peris1
Seat 5: truten
Seat 6: matomatik77
Seat 7: _the fox_
Seat 8: LookinThin
Seat 9: iopg [ JD,AH ]
Seat 10: Amadas
ANTES/BLINDS
laupsa posts blind ($0.10), peris1 posts blind ($0.15).

PRE-FLOP
truten calls $0.15, matomatik77 folds, _the fox_ calls $0.15, LookinThin calls $0.15, iopg bets $0.30, Amadas folds, laupsa calls $0.20, peris1 calls $0.15, truten bets $0.30, _the fox_ calls $0.30, LookinThin calls $0.30, iopg calls $0.15, laupsa calls $0.15, peris1 calls $0.15.

FLOP [board cards JH,QS,10S ]
laupsa checks, peris1 bets $0.15, truten bets $0.30, _the fox_ calls $0.30, LookinThin calls $0.30, iopg calls $0.30, laupsa calls $0.30, peris1 calls $0.15.

TURN [board cards JH,QS,10S,3S ]
laupsa checks, peris1 bets $0.30, truten calls $0.30, _the fox_ calls $0.30, LookinThin folds, iopg folds, laupsa calls $0.30.

RIVER [board cards JH,QS,10S,3S,7H ]
laupsa checks, peris1 bets $0.30, truten folds, _the fox_ folds, laupsa calls $0.30.

SHOWDOWN
peris1 shows [ 8S,AS ]
laupsa mucks cards
peris1 wins $6.15.


Call down worth it?

Hand 2
Texas Hold'em $0.15-$0.30 (real money), hand #1,691,256,485
Table Kuibyschew, 9 Jan 2006 2:56 PM ET

Seat 1: jk304
Seat 3: rokulipaiva
Seat 4: elichrome1
Seat 5: ala111
Seat 6: nosferus
Seat 7: _the fox_
Seat 8: LookinThin
Seat 9: iopg [ 10H,10S ]
Seat 10: Amadas
ANTES/BLINDS
iopg posts blind ($0.10), Amadas posts blind ($0.15).

PRE-FLOP
jk304 calls $0.15, rokulipaiva folds, elichrome1 calls $0.15, ala111 calls $0.15, nosferus folds, _the fox_ calls $0.15, LookinThin folds, iopg bets $0.20, Amadas calls $0.15, jk304 calls $0.15, elichrome1 calls $0.15, ala111 calls $0.15, _the fox_ calls $0.15.

FLOP [board cards 4D,JH,9H ]
iopg bets $0.15, Amadas calls $0.15, jk304 folds, elichrome1 bets $0.30, ala111 calls $0.30, _the fox_ calls $0.30, iopg calls $0.15, Amadas folds.

TURN [board cards 4D,JH,9H,JD ]
iopg bets $0.30, elichrome1 bets $0.60, ala111 folds, _the fox_ calls $0.50 and is all-in, iopg calls $0.30.

RIVER [board cards 4D,JH,9H,JD,2C ]
iopg checks, elichrome1 bets $0.30, iopg calls $0.30.
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Old 01-10-2006, 08:25 PM #2 (permalink)  
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omfg bump + renamed for more responses
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Old 01-10-2006, 09:40 PM #3 (permalink)  
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omfg i hate this format. Summarize it for us.
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and if im reading it right, i think the flop call on the first one is ok, good dump on the turn.
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Old 01-11-2006, 12:45 AM #5 (permalink)  
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HAND 1:
PokerRoom 0.15/0.30 Hold'em (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: iopg is CO with J , A .
UTG calls, 1 fold, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, iopg raises,1 fold, SB calls, BB calls, UTG 3-bets, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, iopg calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (18 SB) J, Q, T (6 players)
SB checks, BB bets, UTG raises, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, iopg calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Turn: (14.50 BB) 3 (6 players)
SB checks, BB bets, UTG calls, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, iopg folds, SB calls.

River: (18.50 BB) 7 (4 players)
SB checks, BB bets, UTG folds, MP1 folds, SB calls.

Final Pot: 20.50 BB


HAND 2:

PokerRoom 0.15/0.30 Hold'em (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: iopg is SB with T,T .
UTG calls, 1 fold, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, 1 fold, CO calls, 1 fold, iopg raises, BB calls, UTG calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (12 SB) 4, J, 9 (6 players)
iopg bets, BB calls, UTG folds, MP1 raises, MP2 calls, CO calls, iopg calls, BB folds.

Turn: (10.50 BB) J (4 players)
iopg bets, MP1 raises, MP2 folds, CO calls $0.50 (All-In), iopg calls.

River: (16.16 BB) 2 (3 players, 1 all-in)
iopg checks, MP1 bets, iopg calls.

Final Pot: 18.16 BB
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TY demi.

Hand 1) Fold the flop. If you have the best hand, which is a longshot at best, you won't have the best hand by the river. Vulnerable to just about every card in the deck ;p

Hand 2) WTF? Ok, I understand the pseudo-donkbet-bluff. Sorta. Its a bad idea, but I think you know that. You got raised - twice - why call down? If I donkbet bluff this turn, I fold when it gets raised. If you really wanted to pull a bluff, you'd have checkraised. The whole way you played it just doesn't make sense.
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 Hand 1 i'd call the flop and fold the turn.

Hand 2 I'm not raising it preflop, and you can get away from it easier on the turn that way.


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How did you do that? It doesn't work for me. The converter, that is.
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Old 01-11-2006, 10:50 PM #10 (permalink)  
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1. I didn't have to add the word hand because it was already there
2. this is what I got for the first hand:
PokerRoom 0.15/0.30 Hold'em (0 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: is with , .
laupsa checks, peris1 bets, truten raises, fox_ calls, LookinThin calls, iopg calls, laupsa calls, peris1 calls.
laupsa checks, peris1 bets, truten calls, fox_ calls, LookinThin folds, iopg folds, laupsa calls.
laupsa checks, peris1 bets, truten folds, fox_ folds, laupsa calls.

Final Pot: 0 BB

Do I put the rest in myself or something?
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Old 01-12-2006, 07:22 AM #11 (permalink)  
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Technically I looked up the hands you posted on the pokernetwork site using the hand number,
http://www.pokernetwork.co.uk/games/...ber=1691189174
then plugged that into the converter.

'gnomes just posted a link to another converter though, so try that one:
http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter/
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Originally Posted by Demiparadigm
Technically I looked up the hands you posted on the pokernetwork site using the hand number....
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I had no idea you could look up hand histories like this. I don't play on pokernetwork so it won't personally help me at the moment, but I see the potential for some serious datamining here.

Are there any other networks that you can look up hand histories for?
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Old 01-12-2006, 05:41 PM #13 (permalink)  
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wow one could just automatically write a script to fill out a million hands or so for pokertracker to get a huge database for every player D:

the other converter doesn't work either

you know what, I might just have to make my own
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Old 01-13-2006, 12:11 AM #14 (permalink)  
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Take the HH from PT, and put that in the original converter.
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It doesn't look good:
PokerRoom 0.15/0.30 Hold'em (0 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: is with , .
, truten calls, matomatik77 folds, fox_ calls, LookinThin calls, iopg raises, Amadas folds, laupsa calls, peris1 calls, truten 3-bets, fox_ calls, LookinThin calls, iopg calls, laupsa calls, peris1 calls.
laupsa checks, peris1 bets, truten raises, fox_ calls, LookinThin calls, iopg calls, laupsa calls, peris1 calls.
laupsa checks, peris1 bets, truten calls, fox_ calls, LookinThin folds, iopg folds, laupsa calls.
laupsa checks, peris1 bets, truten folds, fox_ folds, laupsa calls.

Final Pot: 0 BB
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Did you use the converter at zerodivide?

PokerRoom 2/4 Hold'em (4 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is Button with A, K.
UTG calls, Hero raises, 2 folds, UTG calls.

Flop: (5.50 SB) 7, Q, 9 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, UTG calls.

Turn: (3.75 BB) K (2 players)
UTG bets, Hero raises, UTG calls.

River: (7.75 BB) 6 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, UTG raises, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 11.75 BB

Results in white below:
UTG has 8s 5s (straight, nine high).
Hero has Ac Kh (one pair, kings).
Outcome: UTG wins 11.75 BB.

BTW these are the types of hands that happen during a 100bb downswing.
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Did you use the converter at zerodivide?
No, I just messed up my hand history on purpose and then added the link to it manually.
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iopq, you're not the only person doing something wrong. The zerodivide converter spits out the same garbage for me as it does for you when I try to convert a pokerroom hand history. The tips and tricks that people have mentioned in the posts above are also not working for me. I'm not sure what they're doing differently that you and I are not, but fortunately that doesn't matter, because demi already pointed this out:

Quote:
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'gnomes just posted a link to another converter though, so try that one:
http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter/
This one is correctly converting pokerroom hands (well, it is for me at least--it will probably spit out garbage when you try it).
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Quote:
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Did you use the converter at zerodivide?
No, I just messed up my hand history on purpose and then added the link to it manually.
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