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Old 08-19-2005, 06:47 PM     Post subject: the pain continues: 3 hands #1 (permalink)  
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2 hands from B&M yesterday. lost -100 bb total in last 4 days.

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1) do i raise the flop ?? I have the nut flush draw and I am first to act after MP1 s bet. cant raise here can I ? I want people in NOT OUT. However If i had raised, maybe sb would have 3 bet and mp1 might have folded. MP1 is HUGE CALLING STATION. SB is LA.

Hero is As-5s in Button
UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, CO calls, Hero calls, SB completes

Flop: 3h-3s-10s
MP1 bets, Hero calls, SB calls

Turn: 3h-3s-10s-2d
MP1 bets, Hero calls, SB raises, MP1 calls, Hero calls.

River: 3h-3s-10s-2d-7s
SB bets, MP1 raises, Hero 3bets, SB folds, MP1 calls.

MP1 shows 7-7
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2) I waited till the turn to raise against a safe card. I was hoping that someone will bet the turn and I get to raise to knock out some people.
Hero is 9-9 in Button.

Preflop: UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls,MP1 calls, MP2 calls, CO calls, Hero calls.

Flop: 2h-3s-8s
UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks,MP1 checks, MP2 checks, CO checks, Hero checks.

Turn: 2h-3s-8s-7h
UTG+1 bets, UTG+2 calls,MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Hero raises,UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls,MP1 calls, MP2 calls

River: 2h-3s-8s-7h-2d
UTG+1 bets,Hero calls

UTG+1 has 2-3 for full house. playing 2-3 in UTG..#(($*#(#@(#
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Old 08-19-2005, 06:50 PM #2 (permalink)  
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another hand with same MP1 (old lady) who apparently pushed me off the best hand. I raised from Button again with Ac-Ks

flop: 4-5-7
MP1 bets and i call and 4 others call

Turn is no help. 4-5-7-Q and I dont have a backdoor draw. MP1 bets again I fold and only one person calls.

River is checked. MP1 shows A-3 and wins with Ace high.
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Old 08-19-2005, 07:06 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Hand 1: STBY.
Hand 2: STBY. Bet the flop.
Hand 3: STBY. Dont be results oriented. Good fold.
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Old 08-19-2005, 07:10 PM #4 (permalink)  
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you're lucky they forgot to hit raise again on the river on the first hand.

bet the flop on the 2nd hand.

raise the flop on the 3rd for a free turn card.
 
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Old 08-19-2005, 07:25 PM #5 (permalink)  
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oo. good line for #3 hyper.
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Old 08-19-2005, 07:26 PM     Post subject: Re: the pain continues: 3 hands #6 (permalink)  
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2) I waited till the turn to raise against a safe card.
Delete this concept from your memory banks. It's not useful if you don't understand why to use it and when to use it. You're not giving up a lot if you ignore it, but you're giving up a ton if you misapply it.
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Old 08-19-2005, 08:37 PM #7 (permalink)  
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Yes. Waiting for a safe card there is horrid. Anything higher than a 9 is a BAD card for you. Cram it while ya got it.
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Old 08-19-2005, 08:40 PM #8 (permalink)  
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1. Raise the Flop

2. Raise Preflop and the Flop

3. Raise the Flop or fold

As TylerK said you are misapplying the concept of raising the turn on a safe card. Re-read SSHE on this concept to see when you would use it.
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