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midas06
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12-08-2005, 10:54 AM
Post subject: Optimal VP$IP for 6max LHE?
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4-of-a-Kind
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^ Title.
Assuming normal 6max players etc.
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Pingviini
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{Moved from Short-Handed Hold'em Ring}
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"Poker is a simple math game" -Aba20
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euphoricism
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4-of-a-Kind
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"depends"
You can be succesful anywhere from 20-30%
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chardrian
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I rarely,if ever, get pms
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I don't have PT so I don't know my VP$IP but I do know that I am usually between 30-40% of flops seen on Dises 5 max tables, and usually closer to the 30% figure on Stars 6 max tables.
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midas06
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4-of-a-Kind
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Sorry, wasn't sure whether to post in LHE or short handed.
Yeah, Demi laughed at me because my vp$ip was too low yesterday in my first session of it, around 17%. Today my overall vp$ip has increased to 21%, so I'm getting there...
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euphoricism
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21 isnt bad. I was over 25% for a while and all it did was serve to send my variance through the roof
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StinkyBeaver
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Flush
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I'm at 28% VP$IP.
But 21/16 is this best to start out with. If you find that style too tight then you can start adding hands from there
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Demiparadigm
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you mean 16% PFR? That's a little aggro.
I run about 29/15 at 6 max.
I think a tight agreesive player should be around 22/12.
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To win in poker you only need to be one step ahead of your opponents. Two steps may be detrimental.
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midas06
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Update: 1000 hands in I am 20.88 vp$ip 16.24 PF Raise.
Shit.
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Demiparadigm
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by midas06
Update: 1000 hands in I am 20.88 vp$ip 16.24 PF Raise.
Shit.
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Are you winning?
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To win in poker you only need to be one step ahead of your opponents. Two steps may be detrimental.
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Fnord
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I run 12% PFR at a full table. That's downright passive.
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euphoricism
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Yeah it is. Over my entire 5/10 6max career, (including the initial the learning curve) I run 25/17. This month, (where I feel my play is solid and I'm running 2bb/100) its 24/15.
However, note that 6max is about exploitation, and your vpip can change drastically depending on something as simple as who is sitting on your right.
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midas06
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4-of-a-Kind
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Demiparadigm
Quote:
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Originally Posted by midas06
Update: 1000 hands in I am 20.88 vp$ip 16.24 PF Raise.
Shit.
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Are you winning? |
Yes
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midas06
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4-of-a-Kind
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After playing 1/2 6max with Demi last night, my stats were:
vp$ip 27.92 , 18.83 PFR
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