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01-08-2008, 09:25 AM Post subject: Omaha Newb 2 hands

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Just playing micro Omaha for fun. I don't know how to play really. Is it me, or are there more mistakes in Omaha people are making than in No Limit?

Shove on river seems bad... but couldnt he also have a set, or would he shove over on flop or turn? Or would someone put me on a set of aces? I have no idea, heh

should i worry about double suited spade/heart on turn? what do you think villain's range is on turn. If villain shoves river, do you call? Or should we just shove? River shove seems best.

PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $0.25 BB (8 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Button ($23.05)
SB ($26.55)
BB ($10)
UTG ($21.75)
Hero ($23.50)
MP1 ($25)
MP2 ($30.35)
CO ($18.70)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 3

, 3

, A

.
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.75, 1 fold, MP2 calls $0.75, CO calls $0.75, 3 folds.

Flop: ($2.60) 8

, 2

, A

(3 players)
Hero bets $2.5, MP2 calls $2.50, CO folds.

Turn: ($7.60) 9

(2 players)
Hero bets $7.25, MP2 calls $7.25.

River: ($22.10) J

(2 players)
Hero ??

How should I proceed, and how did I play up until then? I don't want to overvalue Kings in Omaha.... in a 3 way im usually behind, but can I get value here from the bigstack or is it a mistake to proceed here?

Call or shove flop?

PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

MP ($36.65)
CO ($23.15)
Button ($3.20)
SB ($24.85)
Hero ($31.60)
UTG ($27.95)

Preflop: Hero is BB with

.
3 folds, Button raises to $0.85, SB raises to $2.8, Hero calls $2.55, Button raises to $3.2, SB calls $0.40, Hero calls $0.40.

Flop: ($9.60)

(3 players)
SB bets $9.15, Hero ??

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salsa4ever

01-08-2008, 11:50 AM

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hand 1 either check call or shove is plausible. the question in the end is whether there are more hand that will call your bet, or will bet if checked to.

I think villain's range has to be dominated by spade draws and some straight draws i mean what the hell goes calling pot on the flop? If he has hearts they're unlikely to be the nut flush draw.

Therefore, I think checking and calling is probably preferable to pushing in this case. Although normally you want to be rivers if first to act and you have to call anyway. I think you might save some money against an opponent who made a straight who would call your shove but might not shove if you check. Even someone with low hearts may not make you pay. And you maximize your chances of an opponent with spades bluffing which I think is more likely than something like a set or a 2pair cos that would have raised the turn for sure.

verdict: check call river

hand 2 fold pre flop fold flop

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01-08-2008, 11:54 AM

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Hand1: Since villian called both your flop and turn bets but did not raise in any of them I think the most logical hands he has is either high 2 pair or spade FD, possibly with the A for a pair or 2 pair, the only way the J helped in on the river is if he hit the heart FD with the other 2 cards or hit a str8, both are possible but not highly likely.
If he has 2 pair I think he will call your river bet, if he has a FD he will not pay you off. All and all I think I check/call the river

Hand2: I think you should fold, villian reraised preflop out of position and bets big into a dry pot, you have to give him credit for a hand, most likely aces

mixchange

01-10-2008, 02:23 AM

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villain had about $13 behind. I shoved river and he called with a straight... no hearts. I was hoping if he had gotten a straight I could get him to fold repping the flush, but no... villain had some garbage like q10s, totally shockingly badf

hand 2 I folded flop with the best hand on flop. button sucked out with a flush, sb had just Ax (no heart) and garbage.

but more omaha i play the more likely in this spot someone either has aces or has kings with a better drawing hand

are we really giving credit for aces this readily in omaha 6 max?

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01-10-2008, 04:07 AM

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Hand1: Repping a flush when the flush is completed on turn and river is tough, it is much more likely you have a set.

Hand2: With reraise preflop and betting into a dry pot you have to give villian a credit to a hand, you have an overpair with no draws, it is just not good enough to continue IMO

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