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Old 08-14-2005, 11:04 AM     Post subject: Notable .5/1 Session hands (Help please) #1 (permalink)  
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Raise preflop? Bet the flop?

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Preflop: Hero is SB with J, T.
UTG calls, MP calls, 1 fold, Button calls, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5 SB) A, Q, K (5 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP bets, Button calls, Hero raises, BB folds, UTG folds, MP calls, Button calls.

Turn: (5.50 BB) 3 (3 players)
Hero bets, MP calls, Button calls.

River: (8.50 BB) 7 (3 players)
Hero bets, MP calls, Button folds.

Final Pot: 10.50 BB

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Hand 2: I fish g00t is this standard?

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q, T.
Hero calls, 2 folds, Button calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 4, 8, 2 (4 players)
SB bets, BB calls, Hero calls, Button folds.

Turn: (3.50 BB) 7 (3 players)
SB bets, BB calls, Hero calls.

River: (6.50 BB) 6 (3 players)
SB bets, BB raises, Hero 3-bets, SB folds, BB calls.

Final Pot: 13.50 BB


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hand 3: I kow i missed a couple bets. Should i raise the turn?

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Preflop: Hero is MP with J, Q.
UTG calls, Hero calls, 1 fold, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (4 SB) J, A, J (4 players)
SB checks, BB bets, UTG folds, Hero raises, SB folds, BB calls.

Turn: (4 BB) J (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.

River: (6 BB) 2 (2 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, BB calls.

Final Pot: 10 BB

Just a couple hands from this table i am at right now. I will hopefully get some more to post.

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Hand 4: Played good?

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Preflop: Hero is MP with A, K.
UTG calls, Hero raises, 1 fold, Button calls, 2 folds, UTG calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) 9, 5, 3 (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, Button calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (5.25 BB) 2 (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, Button calls, UTG calls.

River: (8.25 BB) 9 (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks, Button checks.

Final Pot: 8.25 BB
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Old 08-14-2005, 11:33 AM #2 (permalink)  
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First hand I'd bet the flop and I'd probably be wrong.

I don't like it when I hit nothing with AK. Esp against many opponents. Bet the flop, but check/fold the turn would be my (probably incorrect) line.
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Old 08-14-2005, 02:14 PM #3 (permalink)  
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On the second hand, isn't the same value and less risk to just call with the flush assuming SB will call one more to showdown? If you 3-bet, there's a chance that SB or BB gets to cap with a better hand and if SB folds and BB calls, you still only get one more bet, vrs you calling and SB calling which is the same bet.

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Old 08-14-2005, 03:56 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Hand 1: Looks fine, though I usually just bet out on the flop.

Hand 2: Flop call is thin. If you think all your outs are clean, then technically you have odds for it, but in a small pot I just let this go. After that I play it the same.

Hand 3: Looks like it worked out the same this time, but usually they're more willing to put bets in on the turn than the river. No need to be sneaky at this level. Also, PF: against one limper think about either raising or folding.

Hand 4: On the flop I could go either way- if they're the type who routinely fold to the PF aggressor then fine. You might as well slow down on the turn though, because your hand sucks against two opponents with this board. You've got draws already completed and you have tainted outs.

Edit: Hand 4: I misread the action- I definitely bet the flop every time, but I still probably slow down on the turn.
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Eh, these are six-max, and I have very little experience there.

Hand 1: I check/call then check/raise the turn. You want the BB and UTG to stay in at the flop, raising bumped em out. Your cards are really safe, unless someone runner runners a flush or a boat, you're pretty unbeatable here.

Hand 2: Might be a six max thing, but QTs? Fold preflop?
No raise preflop, so if your Q hits you're probably good. AQ raises, I imagine at six max KQ and QJ do too. So three outs to your Q, hitting your T might not be good, so thats worth maybe an out and a half. And then the redraw to the flush.. but the pot is only 3.5BB, little on the low side. Id probably let it go.

Why not raise the flop? Take control of the hand and give yourself the option of taking a free river look.

Hand 3: RAISE THE FUCKING TURN!!!! If he's got the ace, he's probably three-betting you. He's definitely at least calling.

Hand 4: You did all you could, well played. Betting the river is probably suicide more often than not. If they arent folding on the turn, they probably arent folding the river.
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Old 08-14-2005, 04:23 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Hand 1:
I check call the flop, and check raise the turn. Check raising the flop is really limiting your profit.

Hand 2:
I don't think this is good enough to play UTG...even 6 handed. And if you think it is, RAISE!

Hand 3:
heh...nice hand. I'm a big loser so I call the flop and raise the turn (even if you didn't get your 4th jack) I don't like the turn call at all. Looks like BB has an ace and he won't believe you have quads. You got your raise in on the river, but you could have done it just as well on the turn. He may have even 3 bet on the turn with the ace...especially if you didn't raise the flop.

Hand 4:
Yeah sadly, that's how I find myself playing it. If it's obvious they're not going to fold, I may even check it on the turn. The problem is this looks very weak and they may bet with a crap pair, and then you have to decide to call or fold, and both options suck.
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these are six-max
I can't read. Well the only thing that changes for me is I think you should raise or fold PF on hand 2, depending on your opponents, image, etc.
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hand 1: check/call flop, check/raise turn
hand 2: never open limp at a 6max table. raise preflop. raise the turn for a free showdown/value river bet.
hand 3: fine. raise preflop.
hand 4: fine.
 
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Old 08-14-2005, 11:54 PM #9 (permalink)  
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On the first hand:
Is it wrong that on flops like this when i've flopped a monster and am not currently afraid of any draws, i prefer to check/call the turn and check/raise the river as hypermegachi suggested?
As i see it by check raising the flop i get 2sb + 1 bb on the turn (unless he's really not aware of check-raises) + some might fold to a check-raise on the flop not cald calling 2 bets. Whereas by check-calling the flop i can hope to get 1sb + 2bb + maybe another 1sb from someone who otherwise would have folded to a checkraise on the flop.

That's how i see it, and i might be totally off.
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