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rubixstreub
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07-30-2005, 10:33 PM
Post subject: Not what I was expecting
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Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx
Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A , A .
UTG calls, Hero raises, UTG+2 calls, MP1 3-bets, 1 fold, MP3 calls, 4 folds, UTG calls, Hero caps, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, UTG calls.
Flop: (21.50 SB) K , 7 , K (5 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP3 folds, UTG calls.
Turn: (12.75 BB) Q (4 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks, UTG+2 bets, MP1 calls, UTG folds, Hero calls.
River: (15.75 BB) 2 (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG+2 bets, MP1 calls, Hero folds.
Final Pot: 17.75 BB
Results in white below:
UTG+2 has Tc 4c (flush, king high).
MP1 has 5c 5s (two pair, kings and fives).
Outcome: UTG+2 wins 17.75 BB.
I was so confused thinking that anyone with a King would have reraised on the flop that I completely overlooked the flush draw. Definitely should have folded on the turn. I guess I never expected those cards to be playing. UTG+2 reraising me with 104o???
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Fnord
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07-30-2005, 10:39 PM
Post subject: Re: Not what I was expecting
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Trikflow77
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IF you call the turn...please dont fold the river for one bet when an offsuit duece hits. Fold the turn or show it down.
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i'm still betting the turn and river for value here...
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Yup, they'll cap with 10-4 suited (DUDE ITS SUITED!!!!!) The river fold was weak - I know you were looking for another club or an ace, but you then are becoming as fishy as the guy with 10-4 suited... at this level, you have a guy calling down with 5-5 and you often don't know what these people are valuing their cards. Stay with the AA
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outphase
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folding AA in a 17.75BB pot for 1BB is so wrong it's... wrong. SSH and most players recommend showing down any decent hand for 1 BB in a pot that's 10 BB or greater
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Lets stop talking ABC poker and move on to D, E, and F.
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Fnord
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Didn't notice the fold, yeah the turn and river plays are horrible.
I'm betting the turn and showing this down.
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Yeah, I realize the river fold was super weak, and I guess I was only trying to save the extra $1 on the river to my bad call on the turn (I figured I was beat by a K slow playing- figured one of the two guys still playing must have had it).. If I could replay this hand I probably would have laid down on the turn after checking to a bet.
I see everyone feels I should have continued beting the river.... but I guess this feels even worse than leaving the had with such a scary board, with two players in I feel pretty confident I'm beat. Not sure if there was a way to not lose a lot of $ on this hand. Then again I guess the pot dicates a showdown. Honestly everyone's play was so mind boggling I was just confused. This is by far the weirdest hand I've played in the last 6 months and hopefully it wont happen again.
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Originally Posted by Rubix13
This is by far the weirdest hand I've played in the last 6 months and hopefully it wont happen again.
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Wow you can't have played many hands on Party during those months in that case
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Originally Posted by Rubix13
If I could replay this hand I probably would have laid down on the turn after checking to a bet.
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You absolutely can't fold this hand on the turn. There is a very good chance you have the best hand and even if you don't, you have the nut flush draw and 2 aces as outs. If you are going to play the hand anyways, you might as well bet at it on the turn and then just call down if raised. Then on the river, the pot is big enough that there is no possible way you can fold(you are good here too often to be making those laydowns).
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by Rubix13
I guess I was only trying to save the extra $1 on the river to my bad call on the turn (I figured I was beat by a K slow playing- figured one of the two guys still playing must have had it).. If I could replay this hand I probably would have laid down on the turn after checking to a bet.
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Folding the turn would be like taking money out of your wallet and setting it on fire. You have a possible best hand and outs to any possible holding with no aggression shown at a low limit table.
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Originally Posted by Rubix13
hopefully it wont happen again.
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are you f*****g nuts ??? you want people capping preflop with 10,4s when you hold aces.
edit: sorry if it sounds harsh but, these are the players i have wet dreams about at night.
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