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elipsesjeff
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02-12-2005, 05:40 AM
Post subject: No respect...
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And I love it.
Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (9 handed) converter
Preflop: Hero is UTG with J , A .
Hero raises, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, 4 folds.
Flop: (11.40 SB) T, Q , K (5 players)
Hero bets, UTG+1 raises, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, Hero 3-bets, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls.
Turn: (10.20 BB) 7 (3 players)
Hero bets, UTG+1 raises, MP1 calls, Hero 3-bets, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls.
River: (19.20 BB) 9 (3 players)
Hero bets, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls.
Final Pot: 22.20 BB
Results in white below:
Hero has Jc Ah (straight, ace high).
UTG+1 has Qh Kc (two pair, kings and queens).
MP1 has Jh 5h (straight, king high).
Outcome: Hero wins 22.20 BB.
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Chicago_Kid
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Sweet pot.
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"Been gone so long, forgot how to poker"
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Trikflow77
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UTG+1overplayed this hand. Nice that he popped the turn on ya. What is the name of MP1 so I can play with him. 
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by trikflow77
UTG+1overplayed this hand. Nice that he popped the turn on ya. What is the name of MP1 so I can play with him. |
You're kidding right? I would play it the same post-flop, he's still got 4 outs against the broadway or TT and you can't rule out AK/AA or god knows what else.
The only horrible play UTG+1 made was cold calling pre-flop with KQo.
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Trikflow77
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I was being sarcastic.......talking about the respect in jeffs post. I would have capped that flop
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Go MP1 !!!!!!!!!1111
Don't let those 3-bets scare you, man. Plus, on the turn you picked up 3 to the Flush!!!!! Sweet !!!!!!!!!111 If the river is two hearts you've got it in the bag!!!!!11
Also come over. We're waiting.
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Now that's what I call sarcasm.[/img]
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Trikflow77
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sometimes the most obvious is not the best route.
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ChezJ
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am i the only who thinks raising AJo under the gun is crazy? suited yes but offsuit, no friggin way. it's too easily dominated.
ChezJ
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by ChezJ
am i the only who thinks raising AJo under the gun is crazy? suited yes but offsuit, no friggin way. it's too easily dominated.
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It's a great play when you expect ATo-A2o/KJo/QJo/JTo and lots of other crap to cold call you. It's an even better play when the idiot cold calls and the aware player either mucks AQo or politely lets you know you're up shit creek without a swimsuit by 3-betting.
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Toasty
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It's also worthraising if the game is so tight you can pick up the blinds...
In a normal game i usually fold it UTG ...
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Poker is all about the long long long long long long long term . . .
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elipsesjeff
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Originally Posted by Toasty
It's also worthraising if the game is so tight you can pick up the blinds...
In a normal game i usually fold it UTG ...
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That reasoning probably goes along the lines of you folding KQo. However, your 'any ace can beat you' argument goes out the window there.
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Fnord
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I love KQo against post-flop tight players. Easy to either pick-up or get away from Axx flops.
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Originally Posted by ChezJ
am i the only who thinks raising AJo under the gun is crazy? suited yes but offsuit, no friggin way. it's too easily dominated.
ChezJ
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I also raise AJo UTG routinely. In fact, I think it was Jeff that said I should do that. It HAS paid off for me in the long run so it is a good play.
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Originally Posted by Fnord
I love KQo against post-flop tight players. Easy to either pick-up or get away from Axx flops.
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What about loose games, raise preflop?
What about teh 'average' 3/6 or 2/4 game, raise preflop?
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by elipsesjeff
What about loose games, raise preflop?
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It depends. With a couple bad players who are serial cold-callers I raise. If the whole table is loopy, inlcuding post-flop, I've just been calling (mostly live games fit here, maybe Pacific should too.)
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Originally Posted by elipsesjeff
What about teh 'average' 3/6 or 2/4 game, raise preflop?
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When you feel like gamb00ling it up.
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