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ponyboy
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11-11-2008, 05:54 PM
Post subject: No pre flop raise with AA?
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Flush
Join Date: Jan 2005
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I've seen this three times this session alone. Is this common? Two out of three times the person got it cracked due to calling stations but I find this a little strange. Micro limit of course.
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Rubeskies
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11-11-2008, 06:05 PM
Post subject: Re: No pre flop raise with AA?
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Poker Enlightenment
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Originally Posted by ponyboy
I've seen this three times this session alone. Is this common? Two out of three times the person got it cracked due to calling stations but I find this a little strange. Micro limit of course.
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People play poker poorly. A lot of people think "if I raise it preflop, everybody will know what I have and then fold or won't give me action." But if they pay any attention, they'd realize that nobody folds anything at micro limits regardless of whether or not somebody raised preflop. Not raising AA preflop at micro stakes is probably one of the worst mistakes you can make.
Is it common? It's not rare. You'll see it a fair amount. It's a poor form of slowplaying that almost never pays off at micro limits.
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Chopper
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Dec 2005
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alot of people, in limit, feel that "why raise AA? it only gets called by 4 others and gets cracked. i would rather see a flop first, and then decide if i want to get aggressive."
and, those players dont understand the game at its most fundamental level. good for the rest of us. please sit to my right. or, hell, just sit with me. i'll buy the beer.
but, others do it to balance out their ranges with the other stuff they limp to, hopefully, continue limping other hands cheap. those that do it effectively, are not playing at the micro levels....i promise.
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IhaveTopTop
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Straight
Join Date: Mar 2008
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Originally Posted by Chopper
alot of people, in limit, feel that "why raise AA? it only gets called by 4 others and gets cracked. i would rather see a flop first, and then decide if i want to get aggressive."
and, those players dont understand the game at its most fundamental level. good for the rest of us. please sit to my right. or, hell, just sit with me. i'll buy the beer.
but, others do it to balance out their ranges with the other stuff they limp to, hopefully, continue limping other hands cheap. those that do it effectively, are not playing at the micro levels....i promise.
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Good answer. I was going to respond with something like this, but this reads better than what I was going to type.
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Knytestorme
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One of the other big tactics nowdays at 1/2 and below (possibly higher as well but can't speak from experience) is that people will limp AA in early position hoping someone behind them gets aggressive and they can then 3/4-bet but instead find they get 3 other callers and then bitch about someone cracking their aces with 74o in the bb
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Chopper
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Originally Posted by Knytestorme
One of the other big tactics nowdays at 1/2 and below (possibly higher as well but can't speak from experience) is that people will limp AA in early position hoping someone behind them gets aggressive and they can then 3/4-bet but instead find they get 3 other callers and then bitch about someone cracking their aces with 74o in the bb
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exactly. but, again, this is exactly why this is such a huge mistake at the lower levels. you cant be sure the pot will get raised! and, with the habitual cold-calling down here, why get 4 players involved only to get a LP raiser that you 3bet and still have a 5way pot, for 3bets now, that will undoubtedly allow everyone to play 72o correctly to showdown?
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LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.
Nothing beats flopping quads while dropping a duece!
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