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a night with elipsesjeff, mike4066, and Fnord at the 2/4
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01-16-2005, 04:32 PM
Post subject: a night with elipsesjeff, mike4066, and Fnord at the 2/4
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what can i say...looking back at these histories i played these hands incredibly bad...
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HAND "ATo is no longer a raising hand preflop"
Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter
Preflop: hypermegachi is UTG with A , T .
hypermegachi raises, 1 fold, UTG+2 (elipsesjeff) 3-bets, 7 folds, hypermegachi calls.
Flop: (7.50 SB) 5 , 4 , 4 (2 players)
hypermegachi checks, elipsesjeff bets, hypermegachi calls.
(should have folded here but nooooooo i'm an i-d-i-o-t)
Turn: (4.75 BB) Q (2 players)
hypermegachi checks, elipsesjeff bets, hypermegachi calls.
River: (6.75 BB) 7 (2 players)
hypermegachi bets, elipsesjeff raises, hypermegachi calls.
(ok that was just as dumb as a bluff can get)
Final Pot: 10.75 BB
Main Pot: 10.75 BB, between hypermegachi and elipsesjeff. > Pot won by elipsesjeff (10.75 BB).
Results in white below:
hypermegachi has As Tc (one pair, fours).
elipsesjeff has Ac Qs (two pairs, queens and fours).
Outcome: elipsesjeff wins 10.75 BB.
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HAND "Q3o is a crappy blind defense hand against a fake blind steal"
Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter
Preflop: hypermegachi is BB with Q , 3 .
8 folds, SB (mike4066) raises, hypermegachi calls.
Flop: (4 SB) 4 , 7 , 3 (2 players)
mike4066 bets, hypermegachi raises, mike4066 3-bets, hypermegachi calls.
(shoulda folded to the 3 bet but noooooo)
Turn: (5 BB) 9 (2 players)
mike4066 bets, hypermegachi calls.
River: (7 BB) 2 (2 players)
mike4066 bets, hypermegachi calls.
Final Pot: 9 BB
Main Pot: 9 BB, between mike4066 and hypermegachi. > Pot won by mike4066 (9 BB).
Results in white below:
mike4066 has 8d 8h (one pair, eights).
hypermegachi has Qs 3d (one pair, threes).
Outcome: mike4066 wins 9 BB.
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HAND "can't bluff the unbluffable"
Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) converter
Preflop: hypermegachi is BB with Q , J .
5 folds, CO calls, 2 folds, hypermegachi checks.
Flop: (2.50 SB) 3 , 8 , 9 (2 players)
hypermegachi bets, CO calls.
Turn: (2.25 BB) A (2 players)
hypermegachi bets, CO calls.
River: (4.25 BB) K (2 players)
hypermegachi bets, CO calls.
Final Pot: 6.25 BB
Main Pot: 6.25 BB, between CO and hypermegachi. > Pot won by CO (6.25 BB).
Results in white below:
hypermegachi has Qd Jh (high card, ace).
CO has 6c 9c (one pair, nines).
Outcome: CO wins 6.25 BB.
(ok this entire hand was just incredibly stupid)
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HAND "i think mike only has ace high"
Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter
Preflop: hypermegachi is BB with 9 , 9 . UTG+2 posts a blind of $2.
UTG (mike4066) calls, UTG+1 (Fnord) calls, UTG+2 (poster) checks, 1 fold, MP2 calls, 1 fold, CO calls, 1 fold, SB completes, hypermegachi checks.
Flop: (7 SB) J , K , 8 (7 players)
SB checks, hypermegachi checks, mike4066 bets, Fnord folds, UTG+2 calls, MP2 folds, CO folds, SB calls, hypermegachi calls.
(now that was just a stupid stupid call)
Turn: (5.50 BB) T (4 players)
SB checks, hypermegachi checks, mike4066 bets, UTG+2 folds, SB folds, hypermegachi calls.
River: (7.50 BB) 4 (2 players)
hypermegachi checks, mike4066 checks.
Final Pot: 7.50 BB
Main Pot: 7.50 BB, between hypermegachi and mike4066. > Pot won by mike4066 (7.50 BB).
Results in white below:
hypermegachi has 9h 9s (one pair, nines).
mike4066 has Jd Ah (one pair, jacks).
Outcome: mike4066 wins 7.50 BB.
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wow given i shoulda folded on the flop for 3 of these that's 6 big bets = $24 i coulda saved when it was clear i was pwnt!
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HAND "playing against Fnord heads up is scary"
Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (8 handed) converter
Preflop: hypermegachi is SB with T , A . MP2 posts a blind of $2.
3 folds, MP2 (poster) checks, 2 folds, hypermegachi raises, BB (Fnord) calls, MP2 folds.
Flop: (5 SB) 2 , 4 , 5 (2 players)
hypermegachi bets, Fnord raises, hypermegachi calls.
dialogue in our minds:
me: i raised preflop, no way you hit anything with that board
Fnord: don't push me around heads up! hai yah!!! take that!
me: pffff i'm calling you down even if you have aces!
Turn: (4.50 BB) A (2 players)
hypermegachi bets, Fnord raises, hypermegachi 3-bets, Fnord calls.
dialogue in our minds:
me: dude i have the ace!
Fnord: screw that, i know you're repping the ace with nothing!
me: haha nice try but i got the real ace!
Fnord: yeah probably
River: (10.50 BB) Q (2 players)
hypermegachi bets, Fnord calls.
dialogue in our minds:
me: bring it!
Fnord: bah! my outs didn't come!
Final Pot: 12.50 BB
Main Pot: 12.50 BB, between hypermegachi and Fnord. > Pot won by hypermegachi (12.50 BB).
Results in white below:
hypermegachi has Th Ah (one pair, aces).
Fnord has Kc Qc (one pair, queens).
Outcome: hypermegachi wins 12.50 BB.
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elipsesjeff
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Hand 1: yeah...no. Bluffing this hand would probably worked better if you had checked raised the flop or turn. Raise ATo same spots you would raise KTo, KJo, and QJo (i.e. late position, not UTG)
Hand 2: i actually like this play, a bit more aggressive than I would do, i prefer just the check/call with bottom pair. Either way I think you did okay on this one.
Hand 3: Again, nothing you can really do here, We've all made this play.
Hand 4: not too bad a call here, Mike could be making a value bet. You know if he didn't fnord would have. Plus, he should have raised here preflop with AJ. On second thought, you should have check-raised your oesd here on the turn. By not raising preflop, he's not representing anything good here and a raise on the turn could possibly have scared his ass away. Its better than calling him down and you always can fold the river if his scare card hits.
Hand 5: Good job.
Your hands arent too bad overall, just looks like some bad luck. The only stupid mistake you made was against me (thanks by the way )
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mike4066
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Originally Posted by elipsesjeff
Hand 4: not too bad a call here, Mike could be making a value bet. You know if he didn't fnord would have. Plus, he should have raised here preflop with AJ.
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Too much time iwht the fishies for raising AJo from UTG to profit.
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elipsesjeff
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Hand "Damn, I wish fnord thought I was bluffing"
Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter
Preflop: elipsesjeff is MP1 with A , A .
UTG (mike4066) folds, UTG+1 (hypermegachi) folds, UTG+2 folds, elipsesjeff raises, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB (Fnord) calls.
Flop: (4.50 SB) 5 , 9 , 5 (2 players)
Fnord checks, elipsesjeff bets, Fnord calls.
Turn: (3.25 BB) J (2 players)
Fnord checks, elipsesjeff bets, Fnord folds.
Final Pot: 4.25 BB
Results in white below:
No showdown. elipsesjeff wins 4.25 BB.
Hand "I'll just outbet Mike here so he can't call"
Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter
Preflop: elipsesjeff is MP3 with A , K .
UTG folds, UTG+1 (Fnord) folds, UTG+2 (mike4066) raises, MP1 (hypermegachi) folds, MP2 3-bets, elipsesjeff caps, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, UTG+2 (mike4066) calls, MP2 calls.
Flop: (13.50 SB) 6 , 7 , 7 (3 players)
mike4066 checks, MP2 bets, elipsesjeff raises, mike4066 folds, MP2 calls.
Turn: (8.75 BB) K (2 players)
MP2 checks, elipsesjeff bets, MP2 calls.
River: (10.75 BB) 5 (2 players)
MP2 checks, elipsesjeff bets, MP2 calls.
Final Pot: 12.75 BB
Results in white below:
MP2 has 8h 8d (two pair, eights and sevens).
elipsesjeff has As Ks (two pair, kings and sevens).
Outcome: elipsesjeff wins 12.75 BB.
Hand "Fnord ain't got jack...but he still wins"
Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (8 handed) converter
Preflop: elipsesjeff is UTG with A , K .
elipsesjeff raises, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, CO (Fnord) 3-bets, Button (mike4066) folds, SB (hypermegachi) folds, BB folds, elipsesjeff calls.
Flop: (7.50 SB) 6 , 4 , 8 (2 players)
elipsesjeff checks, Fnord bets, elipsesjeff calls.
Turn: (4.75 BB) 4 (2 players)
elipsesjeff checks, Fnord bets, elipsesjeff calls.
River: (6.75 BB) Q (2 players)
elipsesjeff checks, Fnord checks.
Final Pot: 6.75 BB
Results in white below:
elipsesjeff has Ad Ks (one pair, fours).
Fnord has Ts Tc (two pair, tens and fours).
Outcome: Fnord wins 6.75 BB.
Hand "Hyper.....please stop. Damn, he had a hand"
Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter
Preflop: elipsesjeff is BB with K , A .
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 (Fnord) folds, CO (mike4066) calls, Button (hypermegachi) raises, SB folds, elipsesjeff 3-bets, UTG+1 calls, CO (mike4066) folds, Button (hypermegachi) caps, elipsesjeff calls, UTG+1 calls.
Flop: (13.50 SB) 8 , 7 , 2 (3 players)
elipsesjeff checks, UTG+1 checks, hypermegachi bets, elipsesjeff calls, UTG+1 calls.
Turn: (8.25 BB) 4 (3 players)
elipsesjeff checks, UTG+1 checks, hypermegachi bets, elipsesjeff calls, UTG+1 calls.
River: (11.25 BB) K (3 players)
elipsesjeff bets, UTG+1 folds, hypermegachi raises, elipsesjeff calls.
Final Pot: 15.25 BB
Results in white below:
elipsesjeff has Kh Ac (one pair, kings).
hypermegachi has Qh Ah (flush, ace high).
Outcome: hypermegachi wins 15.25 BB.
Hand "I's got to be sneaky against Mr. Fnord"
Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) converter
Preflop: elipsesjeff is MP2 with 8 , 8 .
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, elipsesjeff calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button folds, SB (mike4066) folds, BB (Fnord) checks.
Flop: (5.50 SB) Q , 8 , 2 (5 players)
Fnord bets, UTG folds, elipsesjeff calls, MP3 folds, CO folds.
Turn: (3.75 BB) 2 (2 players)
Fnord bets, elipsesjeff calls.
River: (5.75 BB) 3 (2 players)
Fnord bets, elipsesjeff raises, Fnord calls.
Final Pot: 9.75 BB
Results in white below:
Fnord has Qc 4s (two pair, queens and twos).
elipsesjeff has 8d 8c (full house, eights full of twos).
Outcome: elipsesjeff wins 9.75 BB.
Hand "Mike, get that $hit out of here"
Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter
Preflop: elipsesjeff is CO with 6 , 6 . elipsesjeff posts a blind of $2.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 (Fnord) folds, MP1 (mike4066) raises, MP2 (hypermegachi) folds, MP3 folds, elipsesjeff (poster) calls, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls.
Flop: (8.50 SB) 5 , 5 , T (4 players)
BB checks, mike4066 bets, elipsesjeff calls, Button folds, BB calls.
Turn: (5.75 BB) T (3 players)
BB checks, mike4066 bets, elipsesjeff calls, BB folds.
River: (7.75 BB) 4 (2 players)
mike4066 bets, elipsesjeff calls.
Final Pot: 9.75 BB
Results in white below:
mike4066 has Ad Qd (two pair, tens and fives).
elipsesjeff has 6d 6c (two pair, tens and sixes).
Outcome: elipsesjeff wins 9.75 BB.
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elipsesjeff
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by mike4066
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Originally Posted by elipsesjeff
Hand 4: not too bad a call here, Mike could be making a value bet. You know if he didn't fnord would have. Plus, he should have raised here preflop with AJ.
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Too much time iwht the fishies for raising AJo from UTG to profit.
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So you just called? Calling is the wrong play here, you have no idea how good your hand is. By raising, you force other players with worse hands to make a mistake, which will make you money. Other players with AJo would now have to incorrectly cold call your bet or make a very aggressive 3 bet here. AJo is just as strong as AQo when theres no 3 bet here. And players with AQ and AK would now signal you that they also have a good hand. Calling UTG is rarely a good play.
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mike4066
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by mike4066
Quote:
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Originally Posted by elipsesjeff
Hand 4: not too bad a call here, Mike could be making a value bet. You know if he didn't fnord would have. Plus, he should have raised here preflop with AJ.
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Too much time iwht the fishies for raising AJo from UTG to profit.
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Ack...
/mike4066 pukes
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