Poker Forum

Over 1,246,000 Posts!

REGISTER
Subscribe to FTR web feed
Already Registered?      Username:    Password:   Remember      Forgot Password

Poker Forum

  > 

All Other (Limit) Poker

  > 

The new Party Monster Tables

  
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
elipsesjeff
Old 07-29-2006, 08:40 PM     Post subject: The new Party Monster Tables #1 (permalink)  
elipsesjeff's Avatar
Moderator

Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Northern Virginia
Posts: 4,900
elipsesjeff is an unknown quantity at this point
 Surprised to have not seen a thread yet here, I'll create one. Recently Party made an announcement to increase the rake on its tables to support MTT tournaments, or something. I'm not all that up on it.

Anyway, you players that play on party and have stats, could you post some examples of how much the rake has affected your winrate?

Here's what to do: 1) take a sample before Party switched to Monster tables, either your entire sample or whatever. Take the rake paid and divide it by the number of hands and you'll get your rake per hand.

2) Take a sample from when after Party switched to the Monster tables, and see how much your rake is per hand now. I'm interested to see how the winrates have changed per limit (should be 2/4 and up). Full ring players don't feel obliged to post.


Check out my videos at Grinderschool.com

More Full Ring NLHE Cash videos than ANY other poker training site. Training starts at $10/month.
 
Reply With Quote

Play for FREE and practice your game at...

Join the FTR Poker Forum to disable these banners and start posting!
midas06
Old 07-30-2006, 06:05 AM #2 (permalink)  
midas06's Avatar
4-of-a-Kind

Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: NZ
Posts: 2,196
midas06
my sample size with monster is ~2k hands due to school and hangovers. Still want it?
Reply With Quote
elipsesjeff
Old 07-30-2006, 09:00 AM #3 (permalink)  
elipsesjeff's Avatar
Moderator

Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Northern Virginia
Posts: 4,900
elipsesjeff is an unknown quantity at this point
 aye, with and without please.


Check out my videos at Grinderschool.com

More Full Ring NLHE Cash videos than ANY other poker training site. Training starts at $10/month.
 
Reply With Quote
midas06
Old 07-30-2006, 10:08 AM #4 (permalink)  
midas06's Avatar
4-of-a-Kind

Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: NZ
Posts: 2,196
midas06
up to monster:

3/6: 35,850 hands, $5,077 rake, -> $0.14/hand
5/10: 11,402 hands, $2,420 rake, -> $0.21/hand

since monster:

5/10: 2,243 hands, $587.50 rake, -> $0.26/hand


I haven't been avoiding the monster tables, but haven't been solely playing them either. All 5/10 hands are this month, yes I am lazy.

Rakeback softens the blows.
Reply With Quote
euphoricism
Old 07-30-2006, 03:51 PM #5 (permalink)  
euphoricism's Avatar
4-of-a-Kind

Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Your place or my place
Posts: 3,610
euphoricism
Send a message via AIM to euphoricism
Thats a 23.8% increase in rake taken
<Staxalax> Honestly, #flopturnriver is the one thing that has improved my game the most.
Directions to join the #flopturnriver Internet Relay Chat - Come chat with us!
 
Reply With Quote
pokerfanatic
Old 07-30-2006, 04:56 PM #6 (permalink)  
pokerfanatic's Avatar
4-of-a-Kind

Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: 6max limit tables
Posts: 1,968
pokerfanatic
Send a message via AIM to pokerfanatic
it's gonna be about a $0.03-0.09/hand increase i think at 5/10 that is...

the lower you go in stakes the worse it gets...
“Dream as if you’ll live forever. Live as if you’ll die today.” ~ James Dean ~

"Poker is a lot like sex, peoples perceived ability usually blinds the truth" ~ me ~

"God bless him. Got to bet big to win big! GAMB00L!!!" ~ Fnord
 
Reply With Quote
Ltrain
Old 07-31-2006, 01:52 PM #7 (permalink)  
Ltrain's Avatar
Flush

Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Miami, Florida
Posts: 514
Ltrain
I have been trying to avoid playing the monster tables, but they are taking over; very frustrating. So much so I may consider moving to a different site. At 2/4-3/6, especially shorthanded, the extra rake is almost too much of an impact to justify playing, even with really bad players.
"Don't judge a man until you have walked a mile in his shoes. Then you are a mile away, and have his shoes." - Anon.
 
Reply With Quote
pokerfanatic
Old 07-31-2006, 02:15 PM #8 (permalink)  
pokerfanatic's Avatar
4-of-a-Kind

Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: 6max limit tables
Posts: 1,968
pokerfanatic
Send a message via AIM to pokerfanatic
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ltrain
I have been trying to avoid playing the monster tables, but they are taking over; very frustrating. So much so I may consider moving to a different site. At 2/4-3/6, especially shorthanded, the extra rake is almost too much of an impact to justify playing, even with really bad players.
yea... at 2/4 you're looking at almost a full BB when caped $3.5 EEWWW

3/6 isn't so bad but you really see the effects once you get to 5/10 and down...

10/20 and up is not effected so much it will hurt that bad it might come to like $0.01-0.05/hand which at higher levels isn't much...

at 5/10 it gets effected and anything below that gets worse...
“Dream as if you’ll live forever. Live as if you’ll die today.” ~ James Dean ~

"Poker is a lot like sex, peoples perceived ability usually blinds the truth" ~ me ~

"God bless him. Got to bet big to win big! GAMB00L!!!" ~ Fnord
 
Reply With Quote
elipsesjeff
Old 07-31-2006, 05:44 PM #9 (permalink)  
elipsesjeff's Avatar
Moderator

Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Northern Virginia
Posts: 4,900
elipsesjeff is an unknown quantity at this point
 10/20 its still another .04 per hand or so. Equivalent to a .25 BB/100 decrease.

It is that way across the board looks like, the games are still beatable though.


Check out my videos at Grinderschool.com

More Full Ring NLHE Cash videos than ANY other poker training site. Training starts at $10/month.
 
Reply With Quote
Reply
Latest Poker News
KoRnholio Old 05-26-2012, 03:08 PM    Australia Legalized Online Poker coming up in next 6 to 12 Months
According to an email sent out by Mark Bryan, a gaming analyst at Merrill Lynch, the Australian government plans to legalize online poker sometime in the next six to 12 months. This move will coincide ...

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »
Thread Tools
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


All times are GMT. The time now is 10:28 AM.

Contact Us - Archive - Top

FTR Testimonials

All content
© FlopTurnRiver.com 		Advertising  |   Partners  |   Testimonials  |   T&C  |   Contact Us  |   FTR News & Press  |   Site Map  |   Search FTR

Full Tilt  |   Titan Poker  |   UltimateBet  |   Poker Stars  |   Ladbrokes Bonus  |   Sportsbook  |   Cake Poker  

Play Texas Holdem Online, Online Texas Holdem Strategy, & Poker Forum
This is not a gambling website.