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Toad13
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01-31-2006, 12:23 PM
Post subject: Need work on post flop play
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: L5 Atl, Ga
Posts: 61
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will post a few hands to get advise on how to improve my post flop game.
PokerStars 0.02/0.04 Hold'em (7 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx
Preflop: Hero is CO with 7 , 8 .
UTG calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls, 2 folds, BB checks.
Flop: (5.50 SB) 2 , 6 , A (5 players)
BB bets, UTG raises, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, Hero calls, BB folds.
Turn: (6.25 BB) 9 (3 players)
UTG bets, MP1 calls, Hero calls.
River: (9.25 BB) T (3 players)
UTG bets, MP1 calls $0.03 (All-In), Hero calls.
Final Pot: 12 BB
PokerStars 0.02/0.04 Hold'em (6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx
Preflop: Hero is UTG with K , J .
Hero calls, 4 folds, BB checks.
Flop: (2.50 SB) J , 7 , 5 (2 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, BB calls.
Turn: (3.25 BB) 6 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls.
River: (5.25 BB) 5 (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.
Final Pot: 7.25 BB
PokerStars 0.02/0.04 Hold'em (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx
Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q , 8 .
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, 1 fold, MP1 calls, Hero calls, 2 folds, Button calls, SB completes, BB checks.
Flop: (7 SB) 8 , Q , 9 (7 players)
SB checks, BB bets, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, Hero raises, Button folds, SB calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls.
Turn: (8.50 BB) 4 (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 bets, Hero raises, SB folds, BB calls, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls.
River: (14.50 BB) K (3 players)
BB checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets, BB folds, MP1 folds.
Final Pot: 15.50 BB
PokerStars 0.02/0.04 Hold'em (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx
Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K , 9 .
1 fold, Hero calls, MP1 calls, 2 folds, CO calls, 1 fold, SB completes, BB checks.
Flop: (5 SB) 8 , Q , 9 (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, MP1 checks, CO bets, SB folds, BB folds, Hero calls, MP1 folds.
Turn: (3.50 BB) T (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero folds.
Final Pot: 4.50 BB
PokerStars 0.02/0.04 Hold'em (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx
Preflop: Hero is UTG with T , J .
Hero calls, 2 folds, MP2 calls, 1 fold, CO raises, 3 folds, Hero calls, MP2 calls.
Flop: (7.50 SB) 4 , A , 5 (3 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets, CO calls, Hero folds.
Turn: (4.75 BB) 4 (2 players)
MP2 bets, CO calls.
River: (6.75 BB) T (2 players)
MP2 checks, CO checks.
Final Pot: 6.75 BB
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Toad13
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Join Date: Nov 2005
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PokerStars 0.02/0.04 Hold'em (7 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx
Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J , T .
1 fold, Hero raises, 4 folds, BB calls.
Flop: (4.50 SB) T , 6 , 7 (2 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, BB calls.
Turn: (4.25 BB) A (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.
River: (6.25 BB) K (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB folds.
Final Pot: 7.25 BB
PokerStars 0.02/0.04 Hold'em (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx
Preflop: Hero is BB with A , T .
4 folds, MP3 calls, 1 fold, Button calls, SB completes, Hero checks.
Flop: (4 SB) A , 7 , 7 (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, MP3 calls, Button folds, SB folds.
Turn: (3 BB) K (2 players)
Hero bets, MP3 calls.
River: (5 BB) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets, MP3 raises, Hero calls.
Final Pot: 9 BB
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Toad13
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: L5 Atl, Ga
Posts: 61
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PokerStars 0.02/0.04 Hold'em (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx
Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A , A .
UTG calls, Hero raises, 6 folds, UTG calls.
Flop: (5.50 SB) 8 , 2 , 6 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, UTG calls.
Turn: (3.75 BB) 6 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, UTG calls.
River: (5.75 BB) 7 (2 players)
UTG bets, Hero raises, UTG 3-bets, Hero calls.
Final Pot: 11.75 BB
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thenonsequitur
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01-31-2006, 02:06 PM
Post subject: Re: Need work on post flop play
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#4 (permalink)
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Full House
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Location: Location
Posts: 637
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Looks like you need some work on your pre-flop play too.
Hand 1 (with 7 8 ): Preflop is fine, you have enough limpers to call with this speculative hand. Post-flop you hit the hand you were speculating for--so why are playing so ridiculously passively? By the river the only thing that beats you are another two pocket clubs containing one higher than 8; you can't seriously think you are beat (and you are paying off a higher flush every time). So I just don't understand. Starting on the flop I bet/raise every opportunity because people won't put you on a flush and many hands will pay you off (a pair of aces, straight draws, and lone high clubs, not to mention the occassional two pair and three of a kind). Slow down only if a 4th club hits or if there has been lots of action and the pair boards. Failing to bet/raise every opportunity, I'm okay with a trapping play of calling the flop, raising the turn, and leading the river. It's debatable, but I think this is less +EV than just hammering this hand everywhere.
Hand 2 (with K J ): 6-handed this hand is usually strong enough to open-raise with UTG, so raise preflop. Flop and turn is good. River depends on reads. Against most opponents, they are donking with top pair low kicker or a busted draw in this situation and I can raise, and without a read this is how I play. Against others you can call (and without a read at 2c/4c calling might be a better default play, I don't know).
Hand 3 (with Q 8 ): I fold this pre-flop, but there are enough limpers that calling is not the end of the world. Post-flop I like.
Hand 4 (with K 9 ): 9-handed I fold this UTG+1. It's too easy to be dominated and it's so out-of-position. I like the initial check on the flop, but when it gets back around to you with CO having bet and SB folding, it might be a good place to raise. CO is quite possibly just playing his position and if you can get it heads-up by raising here you have a MUCH better chance of winning than by just calling.
Hand 5 (with T J ): EASY fold 9-handed and UTG. Unsuited connectors are VERY speculative and you can't profitably play them in early position. Post-flop good.
Hand 6 (with T J ): Compared to last hand, the raise in this hand is much better, because it is 7-handed instead of 9-handed, you are UTG+1 instead of UTG, and your hand is suited as well as connected. Nevertheless, this suited connector is still speculative and not very playable in early position, so I fold this preflop as well. Post-flop I like.
Hand 7 (with A T ): I play it the same.
Hand 8 (with A A ): I play it the same.
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