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bigspenda73
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08-10-2006, 05:06 AM
Post subject: In need of shock therapy
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OK, so I just switched to 6max for all the obvious reasons. However, I just played about 5k hands at low limit FR and I have one horrible habit. I have been calling Axo and Kxs OOP a ton, and I cannot stop it in 6max. For some reason my mind still thinks these hands can be profitable here. I was wondering if anyone had some PT stats or screenshots showing the losing numbers that Axo and Kxs have in 6max, you know, the kind of stats that would scare me off of playing these hands. Thanks to anyone who could help.
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Uh, just dont do it? discipline....
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Uh, what I really mean here is that I need proof in the numbers that these hands are not profitable. To me they still seem profitable but from what I've read they are not. I would like to see the numbers. Thanks.
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I don't have any numbers showing that these hands are negative for me in 6max because I don't play them
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bigspenda73
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I don't have any numbers showing that these hands are negative for me in 6max because I don't play them
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Ya know, somehow I just knew that was coming...
Well, looks like this quest is in vain, thanks anyways
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elipsesjeff
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Originally Posted by midas06
I don't have any numbers showing that these hands are negative for me in 6max because I don't play them
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Actually I lied.
A3s +$137.56 net, 0.07 bb/hand, 44.30 vpip
A4s +$38.25 net, 0.01bb/hand, 52.60 vpip
A5s +$76.65 net, 0.09bb/hand, 57.42 vpip
Not what I think you wanted to hear
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elipsesjeff
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that from open limping?
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A2s, K7s, K5s and K2s are almost exactly breakeven, while K6s, K4s and K3s are marginal losers.
My vpip with the Kxs below K8s is very low though
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bigspenda73
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Thanks, altought those numbers dont exactly put fear into me. However, I realize you are very likely to be a lot better than me post flop. You can prolly play marginal hands like these much more profitably than I could. If you can just break even, I should definitely stay away. Thanks
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jeff, I think most of those are from either limping behind in multiway pots, or stealing. My computer's too slow to fire up PT and look through all of them again
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elipsesjeff
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Originally Posted by midas06
jeff, I think most of those are from either limping behind in multiway pots, or stealing. My computer's too slow to fire up PT and look through all of them again
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Yeah, thats what i figured. So, these stats aren't from open limping is all i'm saying. I probably havent open limped an Ax hand in a year.
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