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Old 02-17-2005, 08:57 PM     Post subject: My try at limit #1 (permalink)  
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 I want to try out limit because I find it enjoyable to try and beat a new game...well same game but you know what I mean...here is a hand taht looking back it I dont think I should of 3 bet the river....any comments?

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$5/$10 Hold'em - Thursday, February 17, 16:54:32 EDT 2005
Table Celebrity Poker (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: ulikeaces ( $231 )
Seat 2: Nitehawk2 ( $140 )
Seat 3: shank555 ( $241.5 )
Seat 4: Pjoker ( $129 )
Seat 7: rumma ( $201.5 )
Seat 8: chragf ( $268 )
Seat 9: herjn64 ( $229.5 )
Seat 10: TXCWL ( $310 )
Seat 5: whynot28 ( $239 )
TXCWL posts small blind [$2].
ulikeaces posts big blind [$5].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to ulikeaces [ Ad Kd ]
Nitehawk2 folds.
shank555 calls [$5].
Pjoker folds.
rumma folds.
chragf calls [$5].
herjn64 folds.
>You have options at Table 32896 Table!.
>You have options at Table 34442 Table!.
TXCWL calls [$3].
ulikeaces raises [$5].
shank555 calls [$5].
chragf calls [$5].
TXCWL folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 3s, As, 6c ]
ulikeaces bets [$5].
shank555 folds.
chragf calls [$5].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Td ]
ulikeaces bets [$10].
chragf raises [$20].
ulikeaces calls [$10].
** Dealing River ** [ Kh ]
ulikeaces bets [$10].
chragf raises [$20].
ulikeaces raises [$20].
>You have options at Ballet Table!.
chragf calls [$10].
ulikeaces shows [ Ad, Kd ] two pairs, aces and kings.
chragf doesn't show [ Ts, Ah ] two pairs, aces and tens.
ulikeaces wins $142 from the main pot with two pairs, aces and kings.
 
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Old 02-17-2005, 09:00 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 This hand I had a hard time putting him on AK as there was no raise preflop.....shoul not have capped the turn I thought he may have just had a set or 2 pair....????


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$5/$10 Hold'em - Thursday, February 17, 16:56:58 EDT 2005
Table Table 34442 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 2: fishboy24580 ( $556 )
Seat 4: RiverDreamer ( $146.5 )
Seat 5: Tavarnello ( $252.5 )
Seat 6: goaty111 ( $299.5 )
Seat 7: phillyc0707 ( $117 )
Seat 8: all15 ( $319 )
Seat 9: aaronsc ( $129 )
Seat 10: sjlnet99 ( $245 )
Seat 3: ulikeaces ( $211 )
Seat 1: nissecrille ( $239 )
ulikeaces posts small blind [$2].
RiverDreamer posts big blind [$5].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to ulikeaces [ 9d 8d ]
Tavarnello folds.
goaty111 folds.
phillyc0707 calls [$5].
all15 calls [$5].
>You have options at Ballet Table!.
aaronsc folds.
sjlnet99 calls [$5].
nissecrille folds.
fishboy24580 folds.
ulikeaces calls [$3].
RiverDreamer checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qc, Jh, Ts ]
ulikeaces checks.
RiverDreamer checks.
phillyc0707 checks.
all15 bets [$5].
sjlnet99 calls [$5].
ulikeaces raises [$10].
RiverDreamer calls [$10].
phillyc0707 folds.
>You have options at Ballet Table!.
all15 calls [$5].
sjlnet99 calls [$5].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 5h ]
ulikeaces bets [$10].
RiverDreamer calls [$10].
all15 raises [$20].
sjlnet99 folds.
ulikeaces raises [$20].
RiverDreamer folds.
all15 raises [$20].
ulikeaces calls [$10].
** Dealing River ** [ 6d ]
ulikeaces checks.
all15 bets [$10].
ulikeaces calls [$10].
all15 shows [ Ks, Ac ] a straight, ten to ace.
ulikeaces doesn't show [ 9d, 8d ] a straight, eight to queen.
all15 wins $172 from the main pot with a straight, ten to ace.
 
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Old 02-17-2005, 09:01 PM #3 (permalink)  
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If you don't have a lot of experience you really should drop down to at least the Party 2/4 game. You can't mindlessly value bet and actually have to play poker with most of the 5/10 crowd.
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Old 02-17-2005, 09:02 PM #4 (permalink)  
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If you don't have a lot of experience you really should drop down to at least the Party 2/4 game. You can't mindlessly value bet and actually have to play poker with most of the 5/10 crowd.
Ive played 2400 hands on the 5/10 in the past and about 6k on the 3/6 and winning on both
 
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Old 02-17-2005, 09:07 PM #5 (permalink)  
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 And this one should of I bet out the flop??



***** Hand History for Game 1605613464 *****
$5/$10 Hold'em - Thursday, February 17, 17:04:56 EDT 2005
Table Ballet (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 2: poker112a ( $168 )
Seat 4: ulikeaces ( $258 )
Seat 6: Pretzelman ( $269.5 )
Seat 9: swimlilfishy ( $139.5 )
Seat 10: future123 ( $322 )
Seat 3: ChaChiTong ( $265 )
Seat 8: Slick_Dome ( $240 )
Seat 5: tstrong5 ( $189 )
Seat 1: Markini ( $238 )
Seat 7: Chris1094 ( $145 )
ChaChiTong posts small blind [$2].
ulikeaces posts big blind [$5].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to ulikeaces [ 6c 6s ]
tstrong5 folds.
Pretzelman raises [$10].
Chris1094 calls [$10].
Slick_Dome folds.
swimlilfishy folds.
future123 calls [$10].
Markini folds.
poker112a folds.
ChaChiTong folds.
ulikeaces calls [$5].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 3h, 8c, 2h ]
ulikeaces checks.
Pretzelman bets [$5].
Chris1094 folds.
future123 calls [$5].
ulikeaces folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 8s ]
Pretzelman bets [$10].
future123 calls [$10].
** Dealing River ** [ 8h ]
Pretzelman bets [$10].
future123 calls [$10].
Pretzelman shows [ Ks, Ad ] three of a kind, eights.
future123 shows [ Kh, Qh ] a flush, king high.
future123 wins $89 from the main pot with a flush, king high.
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Old 02-17-2005, 09:14 PM #6 (permalink)  
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 do you cold call this with position?

***** Hand History for Game 1605648749 *****
$5/$10 Hold'em - Thursday, February 17, 17:14:45 EDT 2005
Table Table 32896 (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 3: oscardt ( $26.75 )
Seat 4: grendel99 ( $421.5 )
Seat 6: fishboy24580 ( $192.25 )
Seat 7: ulikeaces ( $217.5 )
Seat 8: Bswiss2 ( $242 )
Seat 9: Dr_BigNutz ( $1019.5 )
Seat 10: Airateg ( $358.25 )
Seat 5: qwoejltfr ( $172.5 )
Seat 2: Vrabel ( $712 )
Seat 1: RONNIENTN ( $162 )
Bswiss2 posts small blind [$2].
Dr_BigNutz posts big blind [$5].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to ulikeaces [ Kc Qs ]
Airateg raises [$10].
RONNIENTN folds.
Vrabel folds.
grendel99 folds.
qwoejltfr folds.
fishboy24580 folds.
ulikeaces folds.
Bswiss2 folds.
Dr_BigNutz folds.
Airateg does not show cards.
Airateg wins $17
 
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Old 02-17-2005, 09:17 PM #7 (permalink)  
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 fold the turn????



***** Hand History for Game 1605658811 *****
$5/$10 Hold'em - Thursday, February 17, 17:16:58 EDT 2005
Table Table 34442 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 2: fishboy24580 ( $649 )
Seat 4: RiverDreamer ( $104.5 )
Seat 5: Tavarnello ( $290.5 )
Seat 6: goaty111 ( $235.5 )
Seat 7: phillyc0707 ( $82 )
Seat 8: all15 ( $388 )
Seat 9: aaronsc ( $183 )
Seat 3: ulikeaces ( $139 )
Seat 10: PapaRay6039 ( $194 )
Seat 1: nuts_nriver ( $85.5 )
nuts_nriver posts small blind [$2].
fishboy24580 posts big blind [$5].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to ulikeaces [ Kd Kh ]
ulikeaces raises [$10].
RiverDreamer folds.
Tavarnello folds.
goaty111 folds.
phillyc0707 folds.
all15 folds.
aaronsc folds.
PapaRay6039 folds.
nuts_nriver calls [$8].
fishboy24580 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 6d, 7s, 8d ]
nuts_nriver checks.
ulikeaces bets [$5].
nuts_nriver calls [$5].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Ts ]
nuts_nriver checks.
ulikeaces bets [$10].
nuts_nriver raises [$20].
ulikeaces calls [$10].
** Dealing River ** [ Jh ]
nuts_nriver bets [$10].
ulikeaces calls [$10].
nuts_nriver shows [ Th, Tc ] three of a kind, tens.
ulikeaces doesn't show [ Kd, Kh ] a pair of kings.
nuts_nriver wins $92 from the main pot with three of a kind, tens.
 
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Old 02-17-2005, 09:27 PM #8 (permalink)  
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 Good lay on flop???


***** Hand History for Game 1605704572 *****
$5/$10 Hold'em - Thursday, February 17, 17:26:56 EDT 2005
Table Table 34442 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 2: fishboy24580 ( $642 )
Seat 4: RiverDreamer ( $181.5 )
Seat 5: Tavarnello ( $356.5 )
Seat 6: goaty111 ( $195.5 )
Seat 8: all15 ( $351.5 )
Seat 9: aaronsc ( $180 )
Seat 3: ulikeaces ( $307 )
Seat 10: PapaRay6039 ( $157 )
Seat 1: nuts_nriver ( $131.5 )
Seat 7: Fleggor ( $250 )
ulikeaces posts small blind [$2].
RiverDreamer posts big blind [$5].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to ulikeaces [ Ac Qc ]
Tavarnello folds.
goaty111 calls [$5].
all15 folds.
aaronsc folds.
>You have options at Ballet Table!.
PapaRay6039 calls [$5].
nuts_nriver folds.
ulikeaces raises [$8].
RiverDreamer calls [$5].
goaty111 calls [$5].
PapaRay6039 calls [$5].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5h, 3d, 2d ]
ulikeaces bets [$5].
RiverDreamer raises [$10].
goaty111 calls [$10].
PapaRay6039 folds.
ulikeaces folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ Kd ]
RiverDreamer checks.
goaty111 checks.
** Dealing River ** [ Kh ]
RiverDreamer bets [$10].
goaty111 raises [$20].
RiverDreamer calls [$10].
goaty111 shows [ 4c, Kc ] three of a kind, kings.
>You have options at Celebrity Poker Table!.
RiverDreamer doesn't show [ 9d, 9h ] two pairs, kings and nines.
goaty111 wins $102 from the main pot with three of a kind, kings.
 
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Old 02-17-2005, 09:39 PM #9 (permalink)  
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 Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with J, A.
[color:#666666]2 folds[/color], [color:#CC3333]Hero raises[/color], [color:#666666]1 fold[/color], [color:#CC3333]MP2 3-bets[/color], [color:#666666]4 folds[/color], BB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (9.40 SB) 3, 7, J [color:#0000FF](3 players)[/color]
BB checks, Hero checks, [color:#CC3333]MP2 bets[/color], BB calls, [color:#CC3333]Hero raises[/color], MP2 calls, BB calls.

Turn: (7.70 BB) T [color:#0000FF](3 players)[/color]
BB checks, [color:#CC3333]Hero bets[/color], MP2 calls, BB calls.

River: (10.70 BB) 9 [color:#0000FF](3 players)[/color]
BB checks, Hero checks, MP2 checks.

Final Pot: 10.70 BB
 
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Old 02-17-2005, 09:43 PM #10 (permalink)  
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I am no expert but I think you have to call that flop raise. It is something like 13:1 pot odds... and you have two high over. Then fold to the turn.

The last hand you have to bet the flop, smells like a flush draw, I would bet the river.

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1. Get a pad of sticky notes.
2. Write "Bet the River" on one of them.
3. Put it next to your monitor.
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Old 02-17-2005, 09:55 PM #12 (permalink)  
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Hand 1: Looks g00t to me.
Hand 2: Looks g00t to me.
Hand 3: Between the chance you're already beat and the chance of getting outdrawn, need a bigger pot or strong read to call that down or make a play. AK will play that flop fast too often to bet/fold.
Hand 4: See "Why you suck at LHE"
Hand 5: No fucking way I fold.
Hand 6: Really bad flop fold. You have outs to the wheel.
Hand 7: Bet the river.

5/10 will murder you.
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In reference to hand #4 and your list Fnord I have not been cold calling anything... If it isn't strong enough to raise, I drop it. Is that a good strat until I get my first 30K or so hands in?

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If it's offsuit and unpaired you shouldn't be cold calling.
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Quote:
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If it's offsuit and unpaired you shouldn't be cold calling.
well then I am cold calling just enough.... still haven't managed to pick up sooted rockets though.

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Whatever man.

Anyway, if it's like 4+ way raised to you in LP you're throwing away money folding TT-77, AJs and KQs for 2sb.
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If it's offsuit and unpaired you shouldn't be cold calling.

add that to your "Why you suck at Limit Hold'em (for newbies) sticky"
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Sorry if I misunderstood you but that read like you were saying to only cold call suited pairs...

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Quote:
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If it's offsuit and unpaired you shouldn't be cold calling.

add that to your "Why you suck at Limit Hold'em (for newbies) sticky"
Already there, just different wording.
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If it's offsuit and unpaired you shouldn't be cold calling.
So you meant offsuit OR unpaired. Thought you were being sarcastic with the first one...

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Quote:
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If it's offsuit and unpaired you shouldn't be cold calling.
So you meant offsuit OR unpaired. Thought you were being sarcastic with the first one...
Nope, that's an AND operator there. I know my boolean logic...
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Sorry, gotcha now... Damn this language. I flipped it around to read "only call if it's suited and paired"

done with this stupidity now....

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Whatever man.

Anyway, if it's like 4+ way raised to you in LP you're throwing away money folding TT-77, AJs and KQs for 2sb.
Believe me, you HARDLY get these cards with 4+way in LP.... I think the only chance i've had to cold call is with AJs my last 5k hands or, and I did hit a flush with it.

How about TT and 99 vs a limited field? Isnt it possible you could win a pot with all unders flopped? TT is a usual three bet for me, but 99 i'm a little torn.


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How about TT and 99 vs a limited field? Isnt it possible you could win a pot with all unders flopped? TT is a usual three bet for me, but 99 i'm a little torn.
It's close. Although I'd rather have TT 2 or 3 way or 8+ way than anything in between.
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