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Old 03-07-2009, 07:33 PM     Post subject: My stats #1 (permalink)  
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0,5/1$ LHE 6max, 70k hands...4-6tabling, pokerstars, -0,12 BB/100
Everybody has straightforward graph and i have huge swings and dunno why.
At the 0,25/0,5$ i had fairly good results (2,5 BB). Now i am strugling and cant beat this higher level.
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Old 03-08-2009, 03:29 AM #2 (permalink)  
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i really dont like limping 6max (it's absolutely -EV)
you seem to do it a lot, especially from HJ and CO, where you play almost as many hands as BTN, but Preflop raise% and First in Raise% are really low. Limped stat is 9%?

You definitely have to work on blind defense, you underdefend your BB, where your FBB2st should be around 40%
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Old 03-08-2009, 03:36 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Anyways, dont despair, even with suboptimal stats, you should beat the level, and some of your results are variance
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Old 03-08-2009, 12:18 PM #4 (permalink)  
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i really dont like limping 6max (it's absolutely -EV)
you seem to do it a lot, especially from HJ and CO, where you play almost as many hands as BTN, but Preflop raise% and First in Raise% are really low. Limped stat is 9%?

You definitely have to work on blind defense, you underdefend your BB, where your FBB2st should be around 40%
I often limp with 33-55, JTs, T9s, 98s, 87s from the HJ, CO...when 1 limper and more is in.
I think on these levels i cant have higher preflop raise, because there are more limpers and i cant raise them with speculative hands like A7,8 as you normally do without limpers from the HJ, CO.
The same is concerning low-middle pockets pairs. You would normally raise them from HJ, CO, but if you have 1-2 limpers in front of you, you cant do that.
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Old 03-08-2009, 02:32 PM #5 (permalink)  
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I often limp with 33-55, JTs, T9s, 98s, 87s from the HJ, CO...when 1 limper and more is in.
I think on these levels i cant have higher preflop raise, because there are more limpers and i cant raise them with speculative hands like A7,8 as you normally do without limpers from the HJ, CO.
The same is concerning low-middle pockets pairs. You would normally raise them from HJ, CO, but if you have 1-2 limpers in front of you, you cant do that.
Yes you can!

You just have to adapt to it postflop and play according to the situation.

Anyways, how can your FirstInRaise% be so low (close to zero in HJ)?
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Old 03-08-2009, 03:04 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Anyways, how can your FirstInRaise% be so low (close to zero in HJ)?
Its not HJ, 0,03 belongs to BB...
0 = btn
1= sb
2 = bb
3 = utg
etc..
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Old 03-08-2009, 04:46 PM #7 (permalink)  
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hmmm... sorry!

PT3 is the other way around, i'm not too familiar w HM

then, help me out here... hope i'm looking at it right...

you raise first in more utg than hj? and more in hj than co or btn?

this should be the other way around.

What are your pf raise ranges for each position?
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Old 03-08-2009, 08:22 PM #8 (permalink)  
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What are your pf raise ranges for each position?
yea, i checked it again and thats right, ive got good hands unfortunatelly in early position.

UTG....ATo+, 66+, KTs+
HJ......A8o+, 55+, QJo+, KTs+, A6s+
CO....A5o+, 44+, JTo+, T9s+, A2s+
Btn....A2o+, 22+, T9o+, 56s, K2s, K7o, Q6s
SB.....almost same as btn

Recently i am trying to play according MEBenhoe's short handed PF chart, nothing special.

I was shocked when i saw your vpip and preflop raise
Asd....You have 30/20...
I was trying to play like this...but many times a passive fish called my pf raise with strong hand. I value bet all streets...and he showed me a better hand very often.
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Old 03-08-2009, 08:42 PM #9 (permalink)  
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i strongly believe that at higher levels is correct to play loose aggressively but at the micro/low limits where many limpers tend to call your preflop raise ?! no way. We should adjust and dont play specualtive hands.
I was learning that on the loose passive tables we should play more tight.....So i cant understand why 30/20 can be still profitable at micro levels
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Old 03-09-2009, 04:06 AM #10 (permalink)  
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i cant really read those stats because they are so opposite what i am used to looking for. but, as for the "pf range and limping" discussion you guys have going on...

i can see both points about "i cant raise with all the limpers" and the "YES YOU CAN". lance, if your opponents suck, you will outplay them over the long run. so, it behooves you to raise almost any pot you enter since you will make better decisions in bigger pots. that is kind of what i interpret from everything asd is always on my ass about. and, i agree....its just not easy to force myself to do it. but, i am evolving more and more in that direction. you should probably, too.

it looked to me like your weak spot was CO. but again i cant read that software. it also looks like you run 16/18 from UTG which isnt possible. there isnt a positional vpip that i see...only a "saw flop." that could mean a lot of things...mostly that you raise 18%, but only see the flop 16% of the time? are you raising and folding to 3bets 2% of the time? something isnt adding up.

another thing i heard was when asd called you a bit loose from UTG, you eluded to "catching good cards early." thats not possible over 70k hands. you dont go on a "UTG hot streak of super premiums" for that long of a run. that said, i still think your UTG range is tight. i would include sc's down to 89s, too. but again, its not so much preflop as it is post flop.

and, i dont think that software can tell us anything w/o HHs.
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Old 03-09-2009, 05:36 AM #11 (permalink)  
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you raise first in more utg than hj? and more in hj than co or btn?
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another thing i heard was when asd called you a bit loose from UTG, you eluded to "catching good cards early." thats not possible over 70k hands. you dont go on a "UTG hot streak of super premiums" for that long of a run.
i was thinkin about it....
its first in raise, it means....
If i have on the HJ 1 limper in front of me and i raise...its not taken as "first in raise" (now, i am not first in). And this situation happens very often. So its logical that highest number is on the UTG where i am first in everytime
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Old 03-09-2009, 05:55 AM #12 (permalink)  
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i was thinkin about it....
its first in raise, it means....
If i have on the HJ 1 limper in front of me and i raise...its not taken as "first in raise" (now, i am not first in). And this situation happens very often. So its logical that highest number is on the UTG where i am first in everytime
no, this shouldnt be so

Stat is a %
as such, it is a variable statistic calculated between the times you had the option to raise first in (no limpers) and the times you actually did. If you didnt get a chance to raise first in because there were limpers, that hand will not be counted towards this statistic.
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Old 03-09-2009, 01:24 PM #13 (permalink)  
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i was thinkin about it....
its first in raise, it means....
If i have on the HJ 1 limper in front of me and i raise...its not taken as "first in raise" (now, i am not first in). And this situation happens very often. So its logical that highest number is on the UTG where i am first in everytime
no, this shouldnt be so

Stat is a %
as such, it is a variable statistic calculated between the times you had the option to raise first in (no limpers) and the times you actually did. If you didnt get a chance to raise first in because there were limpers, that hand will not be counted towards this statistic.
lance, your RFI% should still be lower UTG because you simply arent playing as many hands....raising or otherwise. you are right, though, if there are limpers in front and you raise, it wont count as RFI.

however, if that number is abnormally low, it indicates you arent stealing enough of the blinds from lp. or, that you play in lots of multiway pots. or, that you dont raise often enough.

when looked at along with vpip/pfr, you get a better idea as to which reason is really the case. if you run 16/15 UTG and have a 14.88 RFI, you are fine...because you dont have limpers in front, obv. however, if you run 34/13 BTN with a 10% RFI, that is a HUGE issue. it should probably look more like 28/20 with a 17 RFI.....and thats if you limp behind a lot.

so, as you can see, the BTN number for RFI will still be a good bit higher than the UTG number simply because you have opened up with position.
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