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mouteut

11-15-2005, 12:33 AM Post subject: My poker tracker stats over 9K hands for 2/4$ Limit

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EDIT: THIS IS 6 MAX

Ok i was wondering what i should improve with these stats. I understand that 9K hands is not the long run and i can surely improve. I would like some clarification on some of the stats poker tracker gives. My guess is that my BB SB play is my biggest leak.

Thanks

Game Level: 2$/4$
Total Hands: 8949
Vol. Put $ in the pot: 42.26
Vol.Put $ in From SB: 60.05
Folded SB to Steal: 57.93
Folded BB to Steal: 20.4
Att to Steal Blinds:40.04
Won $ WSF %: 40.99
Ammount Won: 2214.5$
BB/100 Hands: 6.19
Went to SD %: 43.04
Won $ at SD %: 48.78
PF Raise %:23.82
Total Rake: 1.158$

Style: Loose-agressive/Passive(LAP)

I also loose money from BB and SB, mostly SB.

What some of these term means? And what should i work on?

I would say that my A game is semi tight/agressive pre flop and post flop.....i think i adapt to the situation pretty well. Against 2/4 people that is playing them passively. As i heard rilla say.....letting bad players make all the decisions is +EV. I dont want my nice opponement to stop betting at me with nothing when i know the hand is mine anyway.

I also rarely reraise a river bet unless im confident i have him beat. Im only really agressive when i know my opponement is on a draw or when i know i can make him lay down his better hand. Also if im confident that my opponement is confident he got the best hand.

Comments greatly appreciated, thanks in advance

Note: these 9K hands are NOT all my A game. some were also when i was starting out limit 6 handed. Some were also on tilt.

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11-15-2005, 12:46 AM

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I am running GOOT and I'm still losing money from the SB and the BB. That's just how it works out.

I think you should raise more if Poker Tracker rates you as Passive postflop. Although it could be a statistical blip. Anyway, I suck at teh Poker Tracker.

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11-15-2005, 12:47 AM

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11-15-2005, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Fnord

my exact reaction too...

I have a very hard time believing you can have a W$@SD that low and still be winning that much(even in the short run). Then throw in a VPIP that high and I seriously hope those are all 6-max hands....I don't even know what else to say....

mouteut

11-15-2005, 12:50 AM

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Fnord wrote:

Elaborate a little?

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11-15-2005, 12:51 AM

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I just realized that some of this is short handed. For like a 5 handed game, I could see expert play looking like this....

For 7-9ish handed play, you're playing twice as many hands as me.

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11-15-2005, 12:52 AM

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mouteut

11-15-2005, 12:53 AM

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OH SORRY GUYS

This is 6 max

My full table play is obviously very very very very different...i just play that rock style -.-

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11-15-2005, 12:58 AM

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Well you certainly don't have problems playing aggro pre-flop.... lol

You might be a tad loose, but there is so much that feeds into it. How well you play post-flop, rake and how much your opponents suck. I'm not going to stand on a TAggy high-horse and tell ya to tighten up. I'm past that. But it's certainly something to consider.

Other than that, I really don't see what else to say with so little data. At some point it's about playing well post-flop and there is no short-term number for that and the long-term number is win-rate. I guess I can add, that as you play more hands your aggression factor post-flop will tend to go down because you will end up in more calling situations by virtue of starting with a weaker hand.

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My full table play is obviously very very very very different...i just play that rock style -.-

I don't. But I've already written that post...

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11-15-2005, 01:11 AM Post subject: Re: My [url=http://www.flopturnriver.com/Referrals/Poker-Tra

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Originally Posted by mouteut

Game Level: 2$/4$
Total Hands: 8949
Vol. Put $ in the pot: 42.26
Vol.Put $ in From SB: 60.05
Folded SB to Steal: 57.93
Folded BB to Steal: 20.4
Att to Steal Blinds:40.04
Won $ WSF %: 40.99
Ammount Won: 2214.5$
BB/100 Hands: 6.19
Went to SD %: 43.04
Won $ at SD %: 48.78
PF Raise %:23.82
Total Rake: 1.158$

Damn you play loose 23ish-32ish is optimal from what i understand so you are shooting for around 30ish i think...

SB play looks like you are picking almost any two suited and two connected 1/2 gappers, and typical big hands... Att. 2 Steal looks ok for me but be carefull with it you'll have to make adjustments if blinds refuse to fold...

BB Deffending looks like you refuse to fold anything espesally over 9 K hands, it's almost like you are playing a shit ton out of the blind, you sure you have odds for all those hands?

SB Deffending looks optimal...

W$WSF, 40.99 seems like you were running well i think that is a pretty high number or you are playing very passive 6 max players what site is this at?

you bb/100 seems like you again are running well...

Went to SD %: 43.04 jeezous this is too high, it should be around 30 this doesn't change from FR to SH

W$@SD is the same 50-60 is normal, i think if you cut down your W2SD you woul;d increase this...

PFR 23.82... ummm even for 6 max i think this is high, 15-20 is more normal from what i could gather...

not sure what the hel lthe total rake stat has to do with anything...

So looking at the over all persepectus you are probably going to SD too much, but when you win you win very large pots, it also seems that you make a lot of money w/o going to show down. it also seems that ou might have been running bettor then avg given your bb/100, it almost seems like these stats didn't come from 9k hands...

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11-15-2005, 01:12 AM

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I have a very hard time believing you can have a W$@SD that low and still be winning that much(even in the short run). Then throw in a VPIP that high and I seriously hope those are all 6-max hands....I don't even know what else to say....

The W$SD is probably because i will often bluff and some of them will fail.......

This is all 6 max and sometimes even less players.

The VPIP might be high but thats probably because im very aggro from button/SB/BB

IN reply to Pokerfanatic:

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Damn you play loose 23ish-32ish is optimal from what i understand so you are shooting for around 30ish i think...

WHat does this mean? i don't have a clue

Quote:

SB play looks like you are picking almost any two suited and two connected 1/2 gappers, and typical big hands...

Hmm yea i think i am too loose from SB(Tracker says i loose more from SB than from BB so thats a problem)

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BB Deffending looks like you refuse to fold anything espesally over 9 K hands, it's almost like you are playing a shit ton out of the blind, you sure you have odds for all those hands?

Im very agrro against button and especially SB.

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W$WSF, 40.99 seems like you were running well i think that is a pretty high number or you are playing very passive 6 max players what site is this at?

i don't know what this means.....i'm playing on stars, so yes they can fold.

Went to SD % is high but i think this mainly because many of the players try and bluff a lot... i think it can be reduced however

Quote:

So looking at the over all persepectus you are probably going to SD too much, but when you win you win very large pots, it also seems that you make a lot of money w/o going to show down. it also seems that ou might have been running bettor then avg given your bb/100, it almost seems like these stats didn't come from 9k hands...

Its is from 9K. However i think that my play has changed a lot during the process(when i first started playing i think my % of hands played was like 55%, simply playing any 2 sooooted cards). I recently lowered this to 35-40% depending on the table. I DO make a lot of money w/o showdown.

I am probably running better than average but i don't think it is going to go a lot lower than 4BB/100.

Thanks for reply

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11-15-2005, 01:48 AM

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filter your hands through PT and determine what percentage are 6 people...5 people...4 people....cuz your stats are pretty loose. but i'm guessing you get good action from your image on your good hands.

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