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silverfist

11-21-2005, 01:23 PM Post subject: My big losses from yesterday

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Yesterday's session was pretty good (7.35 BB/100 hands - 634 hands total), but I made some bad plays. How should I have played these hands differently?

Hand One:

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Preflop: Silverfist is MP1 with J

, A

.
UTG calls, 2 folds, Silverfist raises, 4 folds, SB calls, 1 fold, UTG calls.

Flop: (7 SB) T

, A

(3 players)
SB checks, UTG bets, Silverfist raises, SB folds, UTG 3-bets, Silverfist caps, UTG calls.

Turn: (7.50 BB) 2

(2 players)
UTG bets, Silverfist calls.

River: (9.50 BB) Q

(2 players)
UTG bets, Silverfist calls.

Final Pot: 11.50 BB
Main Pot: 11.50 BB, between UTG and Silverfist.

Hand Two:

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Preflop: Silverfist is MP3 with Q

, A

.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 1 fold, MP1 calls, 1 fold, Silverfist raises, CO calls, 2 folds, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (10.40 SB) 2

, 7

, Q

(5 players)
BB bets, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, Silverfist raises, CO calls, BB 3-bets, Silverfist caps, CO calls, BB calls.

Turn: (11.20 BB) 6

(3 players)
BB bets, Silverfist calls, CO calls.

River: (14.20 BB) 8

(3 players)
BB bets, Silverfist calls, CO calls.

Final Pot: 17.20 BB
Main Pot: 17.20 BB, between Silverfist, CO and BB.

Hand Three:

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Preflop: Silverfist is MP2 with Q

, Q

.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, Silverfist raises, 4 folds, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (6.40 SB) 4

, A

, Q

(3 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Silverfist bets, BB folds, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (4.20 BB) K

(2 players)
UTG+1 bets, Silverfist raises, UTG+1 calls.

River: (8.20 BB) 7

(2 players)
UTG+1 bets, Silverfist calls.

Final Pot: 10.20 BB
Main Pot: 10.20 BB, between UTG+1 and Silverfist.

Hand Four:

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Preflop: Silverfist is BB with 3

, K

.
UTG calls, 3 folds, MP2 calls, 1 fold, CO calls, 1 fold, SB completes, Silverfist checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 3

, 6

, K

(5 players)
SB checks, Silverfist bets, UTG calls, MP2 folds, CO folds, SB calls.

Turn: (4 BB) J

(3 players)
SB checks, Silverfist bets, UTG calls, SB calls.

River: (7 BB) 7

(3 players)
SB checks, Silverfist bets (I knew this was a mistake the second I did it), UTG raises, SB calls, Silverfist calls.
Main Pot: 13 BB, between SB, Silverfist and UTG.

Final Pot: 13 BB

Hand Five:

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Preflop: Silverfist is Button with Q

, A

.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, Silverfist raises, SB calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (15 SB) A

, 4

, T

(7 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, MP3 bets, CO calls, Silverfist raises, SB folds, BB folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP3 calls, CO folds.

Turn: (10 BB) 2

(2 players)
MP3 checks, Silverfist bets, MP3 calls.

River: (12 BB) J

(2 players)
MP3 bets, Silverfist calls.

Final Pot: 14 BB
Main Pot: 14 BB, between MP3 and Silverfist.

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Fnord

11-21-2005, 05:24 PM

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Fnord is an unknown quantity at this point

Results oriented much?

Is pulling up your biggest losses an effective way to look for leaks?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBvge-c2_Xg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-Xz8aLuD7Y

Phyl

11-21-2005, 07:20 PM

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Looks mostly fine.

I'd raise the river in hand 3.

Betting the river in hand 4 wasn't a mistake.

Fnord

11-21-2005, 08:23 PM

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Yeah, I was going to say the same, but I think his biggest problem at this point is learning how to think about these things in retrospect.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBvge-c2_Xg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-Xz8aLuD7Y

pokerfanatic

11-21-2005, 08:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fnord

Yeah, I was going to say the same, but I think his biggest problem at this point is learning how to think about these things in retrospect.

yes i have had that problem and still strugling a bit with it... i actully stoped using filters for biggest loosers instead i auto play all my hands from a perticular table and look for leaks that way...

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Fnord

11-21-2005, 08:31 PM

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It's my guess that a lot of small stakes players who take the game seriously under-estimate the impact of missed bets on their earn and spend far too much of their post-mordum time looking trying to save bets.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBvge-c2_Xg
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pokerfanatic

11-21-2005, 08:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fnord

It's my guess that a lot of small stakes players who take the game seriously under-estimate the impact of missed bets on their earn and spend far too much of their post-mordum looking trying to save bets.

I don't do it looking to save bets or see where I missed bets I do it to try and find repeated mistakes and not the random misplay or something, I do it more or less for a broad picture trying to improve my game, I have had many struggles so I’ll do whatever it takes to become bettor... I'm not sure what you mean by small stakes player spend to much time post-mordum, it's not about saving 1 or 2bb here and there it's to try to find gapping leaks that are contestant...

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