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daven
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08-31-2008, 08:37 AM
Post subject: moving back to limit?
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: soaking up ethanol, moving on up
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I've heard a lot of noise about the limit tables being particularly juicy.
I've played some limit a while ago - but...
some background:
No limit I play 100nl on a deep bankroll. I do ok multi-tabling but have recently dropped back to 10-13 tables cos i can pay more attention to lines etc. I played micro-limit when I started the roll creation from $200 late last year. I switched to no-limit cos at micros the money is almost all dead.
some questions:
what are the main adjustments i should make moving back?
what should i be particularly careful of?
thoughts on how many tables i should play?
stakes?
what other stats become useful in a HuD? stats that i'd ignore in nl but that may become interesting due to the fixed bet sizing thing..
at what stakes am i going to be completely out of my league?
anything else!?!?!?
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play two tables at first and REALLY adjust to your opponents
then you can play more tables when you get used to how the donks play
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okiman
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Straight
Join Date: Aug 2007
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Bet sizing directly is out the window, so as a result you need to indirectly control bet size. Pay attention to relative position and the betting tendancies of your opponents to help you give opponents the correct odds (if you can) for your hand. Often you'll have to wait for the turn to do this.
Relative position pre and post flop is very important as well for pot control. It helps you bloat the pot when you want/need to and helps keep it small when you want.
Pay careful attention to betting patterns. Some people will always bet aggressively w/ a made hand on the flop, others will always wait for the turn when bet sizes double still others wait for the river afraid to scare off weaker hands (and obviously others pay attention enough to vary their play). For this reason, street Agg factors and 3-bet tendancies are important stats. They also let you know when you can squeeze an extra bet out. Against the better opponents, make sure to vary your play to avoid being predictable. Against weak opponents, deception only costs you money since you can't make up the lost bet on a later street.
You need to know who will lead w/ a made hand and who goes for a c/r on the river. Also, don't forget the difference between calling 1 bet in a medium-sized pot when you're pretty certain you're beat vs. calling 1 bet when you know you're beat.
Continuation betting your weak draws in multiway pots is a good play in limit where it can be very bad against the wrong opponent in nl.
Your roll won't be a limiting factor any time soon. The small bankroll requirements of limit help here.
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Chopper
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Dec 2005
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look who showed up in LHE? 
we'll talk.
oh, cbet less often on flops you missed.
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LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.
Nothing beats flopping quads while dropping a duece!
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daven
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Aug 2007
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Chopper
look who showed up in LHE?
we'll talk.
oh, cbet less often on flops you missed.
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back to the roots dude!
some examples. Oh, and I'm sure you know more about beating limit than c-betting less 
http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...ue-t59592.html
http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...ow-t59374.html
http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...ay-t59372.html
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Chopper
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Dec 2005
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haha. i dont give away secrets until someone proves themself as a regular HERE.
then, i expose myself as the dumbass that thinks he knows all.
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LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.
Nothing beats flopping quads while dropping a duece!
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