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Fnord
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12-02-2004, 08:09 PM
Post subject: Morton's Theorem
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http://cardsspeak.servebeer.com/arch...s_theorem.html
I guess this explains why my suited Aces are so darn profitable...
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steviebrutal
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Thats interesting. I guess I kinda already knew that - but Ive never heard it explained in that way. Essentially, you can think of 3 fish making bad calls, as one 1 player making a good call... which in low limit poker, can have an adverse effect on your EV/profit.
The question is, how do you approach this? Only push monster hands in multiway pots? Improve your reads to place their draws?
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Fnord
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In short, for some pot sizes big pair type hands actually lose value with all of the loose calls and the best (often a flush) draw is making out like a bandit. Gutshots, etc. also retain their value fairly well.
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mike4066
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I knew htere was a reason my AA was barely over 50% win @ .5/1 
AA 5 way stinks..
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Fnord
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The more interesting application is that following a bunch of loose limpers there is a stronger case for mucking KTo and calling K8s.
It also explains the raising in loose games. If you're not profiting from the loose calls, you may as well be staking your fair share of a big pot.
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zenbitz
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I have to say, I learned allot from Izmet and Abul's websites, when I started playing online.
In case no one has seen them:
http://www.posev.com/poker/holdem/st...lop-abdul.html
http://slicer.headsupclub.com:3455/16/Home
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Legendash
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That Mortons theorem was interesting, seems to make strong draws more valuable than before in multiway pots.
From that cards speak website i noticed the guy there uses playerviewnet on party poker
http://home.comcast.net/~amirpc/
anybody here tried this? It looks interesting.
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