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Fnord
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12-28-2004, 07:45 AM
Post subject: More Random Acts of Aggression
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Hand 1
Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) converter
Preflop: Fnord is MP2 with 8 , 8 . MP1 posts a blind of $2.
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 (poster) checks, Fnord raises, MP3 calls, CO folds, Button calls, SB folds, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds.
Flop: (10.50 SB) 9 , 2 , 9 (4 players)
UTG+1 checks, Fnord bets, MP3 calls, Button calls, UTG+1 calls.
Turn: (7.25 BB) 7 (4 players)
UTG+1 checks, Fnord bets, MP3 calls, Button folds, UTG+1 folds.
River: (9.25 BB) J (2 players)
Fnord bets...
Hand 2
SB is fairly tight
Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (8 handed) converter
Preflop: Fnord is Button with 9 , 8 .
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, CO folds, Fnord raises, SB calls, BB folds.
Flop: (5 SB) 8 , 2 , 7 (2 players)
SB checks, Fnord bets, SB thinks....calls.
Turn: (3.50 BB) A (2 players)
SB bets, Fnord calls.
River: (5.50 BB) 8 (2 players)
SB bets, Fnord raises, SB calls.
Final Pot: 9.50 BB
Hand 3
Button is a tight multi-tabler
Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter
Preflop: Fnord is CO with A , 8 .
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, Fnord raises, Button 3-bets, SB folds, BB folds, Fnord folds.
Hand 4
UTG, CO and BB are really loose.
Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (7 handed) converter
Preflop: Fnord is MP2 with A , 9 .
UTG calls, MP1 folds, Fnord raises, CO calls, Button folds, SB folds, BB calls, UTG calls.
Flop: (8.50 SB) 4 , Q , 8 (4 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Fnord bets, CO calls, BB calls, UTG calls.
Turn: (6.25 BB) 9 (4 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Fnord bets, CO calls, BB calls, UTG folds.
River: (9.25 BB) 4 (3 players)
BB checks, Fnord bets, CO folds, BB calls.
Final Pot: 11.25 BB
Hand 5
Same cast of characters.
Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (8 handed) converter
Preflop: Fnord is CO with J , K .
UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, Fnord calls, Button calls, SB completes, BB checks.
Flop: (6 SB) 4 , J , 5 (7 players)
SB bets, BB calls, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, Fnord raises, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls, MP1 calls.
Turn: (8 BB) 7 (6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP1 checks, Fnord bets, Button calls, SB raises, BB calls, MP1 folds, Fnord folds...
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steelwheel
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hand 1
any read on MP3 player? I think maybe he is staying in on overs (so he might have hit his Jack), or a PP. Couldnt really say anything with confidence though.
hand 2
I think for sure the SB guy has Aces up, or at least pair of aces. I defintiely wouldnt think he had an eight.
hand 3
nothing wrong with folding ace medium off, to a 3 bet.
hand 4
I wouldve checked the river, your most likely beaten
hand 5
hmm odd. you are probably in bad shape even more so if another diamond fell on the river. very nice fold here.
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steviebrutal
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Hand 1: Without a read on MP3, It would seem unlikely that he would call down with a 9 - its more likely that he holds Ace high, maybe give him some credit on a low PP... He probably calls the river with anything at this point with only 2 players.
Hand 2: Sensing the steal, I could see SB calling with Axs (maybe A7s). If hes tight-passive, I doubt hes just betting the scare card so Im assuming youre behind on the turn. Im thinking maybe two pair, aces and sevens. You can be pretty sure you took that on the river, awesome steal .
Hand 3: great fold.
Hand 4: I would have folded this PF, even 7 handed. I could see BB calling down with Q-rag. You might be beat here.
Hand 5: wow, good fold.
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by steviebrutal
Hand 2: Sensing the steal, I could see SB calling with Axs (maybe A7s).
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If he had A7 or A8 his decision on the river wouldn't be close, he'd pretty quickly find the call or raise button. If he's acting he must have a much stronger hand, but I think he had a legit decision putting him on a naked Ace on the flop. I just couldn't find it in my heart to fold a pair heads-up on a steal...
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Originally Posted by steviebrutal
Hand 3: great fold.
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He's got a better hand, position, a clue how to play post-flop and I'll never know where I'm at until showdown. I just couldn't find a reason to call....
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Originally Posted by steviebrutal
Hand 4: I would have folded this PF, even 7 handed. I could see BB calling down with Q-rag. You might be beat here.
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But I'm such a LAgg . I tell myself I might be beat everytime I check behind on the river. Then I get shown some crappy hand and realize I missed a value bet.
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Originally Posted by steviebrutal
Hand 5: wow, good fold.
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In retrospect, I'm more skeptical. I guess I put him on a high raising standard. Curious what others think...
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mike4066
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Do you experience large swings paying like this fnord?
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hmmm looks like shorthanded meets full ring...my thoughts:
hand 1: woulda done the same
hand 2: nice
hand 3: yep
hand 4: lol A9o in middle position...from the looks of how your opponents played maybe one had a queen with a weak kicker
hand 5:
it's 12:1 for you to call that turn, don't you think your 2 jacks and 3 kings deserve better treatment?
hmmm looking at it again 2 or 3 more people were left to act, increasing your odds to call up to about 14:1. now assuming you call, the pot is ~15BB on the river. SB is expected to bet again, and then you can possibly make a crying call, getting almost 20:1 to call by now.
anyways, my guess is SB had a set.
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Originally Posted by mike4066
Do you experience large swings paying like this fnord?
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typo or on purpose
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gabe
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hahaha
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mike4066
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Originally Posted by hypermegachi
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Originally Posted by mike4066
Do you experience large swings paying like this fnord?
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typo or on purpose 
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Freudian slip :P
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Corey
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hand 5 could have a straight also but playing w/ 8/6 or 3/6 kinda odd. He could have hit the set.
Good fold if it was thats a touph laydown to the novice player high pair with a good kicker.
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Corey
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by mike4066
Do you experience large swings paying like this fnord?
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Still building my new database...
6,543 hands of 2/4
16.78% VP$IP
10.13% PFR
net +1,456.56
5.57BB/100
Agg
f 3.66
t 3.46
r 1.52 
StdDev/100 hands 15.7 BB
This kind of thing happens fairly often online...
Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (4 handed) converter
Preflop: Fnord is Button with 8 , T .
UTG calls, Fnord raises, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls.
Flop: (8 SB) K , Q , A (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Fnord bets, SB folds, BB folds, UTG folds.
Final Pot: 4.50 BB
Results in white below:
No showdown. Fnord wins 4.50 BB.
Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) converter
Preflop: Fnord is MP2 with J , K . CO posts a blind of $2.
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, Fnord raises, MP3 folds, CO (poster) calls, Button folds, SB calls, BB folds, UTG calls.
Flop: (9 SB) A , Q , 6 (4 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Fnord bets, CO folds, SB folds, UTG folds.
Final Pot: 5 BB
Results in white below:
No showdown. Fnord wins 5 BB.
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good 'ol betting into weakness
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koolmoe
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Originally Posted by Fnord
He's got a better hand, position, a clue how to play post-flop and I'll never know where I'm at until showdown. I just couldn't find a reason to call....
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How about 6.5:1 pot odds? Unless you can put him on AA precisely, I think you have to call one more SB here.
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mike4066
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Fnord
6,543 hands of 2/4
16.78% VP$IP
10.13% PFR
5.57BB/100
StdDev/100 hands 15.7 BB
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so your swings are THAT bad with at 16bb SD
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Fnord
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Oh shit just played a nice LAggy session...
up to a SD of 17.5 BB/100
Booked a $100 loss and a $57 loss, then went for dinner. Then booked my best session yet in this DB at +$187.5 with a couple small winning sessions in the other windows.
I so silly...
Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter
Preflop: Fnord is MP3 with 3 , 3 . Fnord posts a blind of $2. CO posts a blind of $2. MP1 posts a blind of $2. MP2 posts a blind of $2.
UTG calls, UTG+1 raises, UTG+2 folds, MP1 (poster) calls, MP2 (poster) calls, Fnord (poster) calls, CO (poster) folds, Button calls, SB folds, BB 3-bets, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Fnord calls, Button calls.
Flop: (22.50 SB) 6 , 5 , 2 (7 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, Fnord checks, Button checks.
Turn: (11.25 BB) T (7 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 bets, MP2 calls, Fnord calls, Button folds, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.
River: (17.25 BB) 4 (6 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, Fnord bets, BB folds, UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 raises, MP2 folds, Fnord calls.
Final Pot: 21.25 BB
Results in white below:
MP1 has Jc 4c (one pair, fours).
Fnord has 3c 3d (straight, six high).
Outcome: Fnord wins 21.25 BB.
Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) converter
Preflop: Fnord is UTG with 7 , 7 .
Fnord raises, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB calls.
Flop: (6.50 SB) 8 , Q , 6 (3 players)
BB checks, Fnord bets, MP1 calls, BB calls.
Turn: (4.75 BB) A (3 players)
BB checks, Fnord bets, MP1 folds, BB calls.
River: (6.75 BB) 2 (2 players)
BB checks, Fnord checks.
Final Pot: 6.75 BB
Results in white below:
BB has 7d 9h (high card, ace).
Fnord has 7s 7c (one pair, sevens).
Outcome: Fnord wins 6.75 BB.
Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) converter
Preflop: Fnord is CO with 6 , 5 .
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, Fnord calls, Button folds, SB completes, BB raises, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, Fnord calls, SB calls.
Flop: (10 SB) A , 7 , 8 (5 players)
SB checks, BB bets, UTG calls, UTG+1 raises, Fnord calls, SB folds, BB folds, UTG 3-bets, UTG+1 calls, Fnord calls.
Turn: (10 BB) 4 (3 players)
UTG bets, UTG+1 calls, Fnord raises, UTG 3-bets, UTG+1 calls, Fnord caps, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.
River: (22 BB) 3 (3 players)
UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, Fnord bets, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.
Final Pot: 25 BB
Results in white below:
UTG has 7s Ad (two pair, aces and sevens).
UTG+1 has Ah Qs (one pair, aces).
Fnord has 6c 5c (straight, eight high).
Outcome: Fnord wins 25 BB.
...but I still suck...
Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) converter
Preflop: Fnord is Button with 8 , 9 .
UTG folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, CO folds, Fnord raises, SB folds, BB 3-bets, MP3 calls, Fnord calls.
Flop: (9.50 SB) J , T , Q (4 players)
BB checks, MP3 checks, Fnord bets, BB calls, MP3 calls.
Turn: (6.25 BB) 8 (4 players)
BB checks, MP3 checks, Fnord bets, BB raises, MP3 folds, Fnord 3-bets, BB caps, Fnord calls.
River: (14.25 BB) J (3 players)
BB bets, Fnord calls.
Final Pot: 16.25 BB
Results in white below:
BB has Kc Ah (straight, ace high).
UTG+1 doesn't show.
Fnord has 8c 9c (straight, queen high).
Outcome: BB wins 16.25 BB.
Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (8 handed) converter
Preflop: Fnord is SB with 8 , A .
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, CO folds, Button calls, Fnord completes, BB checks.
Flop: (4 SB) 4 , K , K (4 players)
Fnord checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Button bets, Fnord raises, BB folds, UTG folds, Button calls.
Turn: (4 BB) 7 (2 players)
Fnord bets, Button calls.
River: (6 BB) 4 (2 players)
Fnord bets, Button raises, Fnord calls.
Final Pot: 10 BB
Results in white below:
Fnord has 8s Ac (two pair, kings and fours).
Button has 4c Ad (full house, fours full of kings).
Outcome: Button wins 10 BB.
Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) converter
Preflop: Fnord is MP1 with A , K .
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, Fnord raises, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, CO folds, Button folds, SB calls, BB folds.
Flop: (7 SB) 9 , 3 , 2 (3 players)
SB bets, Fnord raises, MP3 folds, SB 3-bets, Fnord calls.
Turn: (6.50 BB) J (2 players)
SB bets, Fnord calls.
River: (8.50 BB) J (2 players)
SB bets, Fnord calls.
Final Pot: 10.50 BB
Results in white below:
Fnord has Ac Kc (one pair, jacks).
SB has 3s 3c (full house, threes full of jacks).
Outcome: SB wins 10.50 BB.
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