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Old 09-01-2007, 05:21 AM     Post subject: More Blind Defense Hands #1 (permalink)  
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I don't think much of my opponent. Doesn't make big pre-flop mistakes though.


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Preflop: Fnord is BB with , .
7 folds, SB raises, Fnord calls.

Flop: (4 SB) , , (2 players)
SB bets, Fnord calls.

Turn: (3 BB) (2 players)
SB bets, Fnord calls.

River: (5 BB) (2 players)
SB bets, Fnord raises, SB folds.

Final Pot: 7 BB

Similar profile, however this guy is a bit more on the passive side.

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Preflop: Fnord is BB with , .
6 folds, Button raises, 1 fold, Fnord calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) , , (2 players)
Fnord checks, Button bets, Fnord calls.

Turn: (3.25 BB) (2 players)
Fnord checks, Button checks.

River: (3.25 BB) (2 players)
Fnord bets...

Opponent is sTAgg, reminds me a lot of my play in my looser gear.

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Preflop: Fnord is SB with , .
7 folds, Button raises, Fnord 3-bets, 1 fold, Button calls.

Flop: (7 SB) , , (2 players)
Fnord bets, Button calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) (2 players)
Fnord checks, Button bets, Fnord folds.

Final Pot: 4.50 BB
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Old 09-01-2007, 05:30 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 I like a lead in Hand 2 better than a c/c

I'd be rusty at this stuff though...
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 I don't play that high so i don't know how people play at 10/20 but why did you call a bet on the flop with no draw and 1 over card? Oh i'm refering to hand 1
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Old 09-01-2007, 09:25 AM #4 (permalink)  
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H1: I assume you're thinking he'd never steal with a non-paired 7 or 5 in this hand ? in that case the flop call is ok. Otherwise, I'd be inclined to fold this flop against even bad opponents. Turn and river look good after the flop call though.

H2: Looks fine up to the river, but don't see what worse hand he's calling with and what better hand he's folding here? If he's bad enough to fold TT+ or a J then it would be ok, but i don't expect you find too many guys like that. Maybe it's wrong, but against a passive opp. i'd probably c/f the river.

H3: I do this kind of thing myself with small pp and it never seems to work on these flops. If he's got paint he's either got a pair or a gutshot and he's not folding the flop. A chance you'll get him to fold 66, 88-TT but that's a very small percentage of his range. Maybe you either have to c/f the flop or take another stab on the turn if a blank hits. These flops are so bad for small pp's I'm starting to wonder if it's best just to bow out on the flop in these situations.
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Old 09-01-2007, 01:37 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Why not raise the turn in hand 1? You've likely got 11 outs and a lot of fold equity...
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 I would assume we have little to none in terms of FE on that turn.
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Why not raise the turn in hand 1? You've likely got 11 outs and a lot of fold equity...
It'd be +EV if he'd fold two overcards to a c/r, but when's the last time you saw anyone do that?
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...esp'lly on that board where a c/r just stinks of a semi-bluff.
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 it's not a c/r bub, I'd rather do it with A4 obv cuz we'd have showdown value and could take the free showdown if we miss.
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Why not raise the turn in hand 1? You've likely got 11 outs and a lot of fold equity...
It'd be +EV if he'd fold two overcards to a c/r, but when's the last time you saw anyone do that?
I don't play 10/20, but I see people fold to a raise on that turn all the time in the full ring 2/4 and 3/6 games on stars.
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Old 09-01-2007, 03:49 PM #11 (permalink)  
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I don't play 10/20, but I see people fold to a raise on that turn all the time in the full ring 2/4 and 3/6 games on stars.
Maybe they do, and i don't play 10/20 either, but given all we've done so far is call it just looks like the best we could have here is a draw or pair of 7s. I think it's just too likely to be interpreted as a semi-bluff to make the SB fold two overs. If he suspects that we're semi-bluffing we might get 3 bet, and if he has 55 or 77+ we're definitely going to get 3 bet, neither of which is good since we're currently behind.
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H3: I do this kind of thing myself with small pp and it never seems to work on these flops. If he's got paint he's either got a pair or a gutshot and he's not folding the flop. A chance you'll get him to fold 66, 88-TT but that's a very small percentage of his range. Maybe you either have to c/f the flop or take another stab on the turn if a blank hits. These flops are so bad for small pp's I'm starting to wonder if it's best just to bow out on the flop in these situations.
Between fold equity, balance and the chance of turning a set I think it's an easy bet.
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Old 09-01-2007, 10:11 PM #13 (permalink)  
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Between fold equity, balance and the chance of turning a set I think it's an easy bet.
You probably know better than me. I can see that if you don't lead every time you 3bet it's like giving the pot away on the flop. Guess you could mix it up with some check/raises even though that risks giving a free card when you're ahead.

What's your plan on these boards if you miss your set on the turn but a blank falls ? Do you normally fire a second barrel? I guess it depends on your opponent's stealing range and willingness to fold?
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