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Old 10-27-2004, 06:27 PM     Post subject: money lost in the SB/BB #1 (permalink)  
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This is for those of you who have poker tracker..

If you fire up poker tracker and look @ position stats you'll see a bb/100 number.

What figures can I expect to see there?
What kind of money can I expect to lose to the SB/BB?
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Old 10-27-2004, 06:34 PM #2 (permalink)  
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I have personally lost (.21) BB/hand from the BB and (.14) BB/hand from the small blind. That is only for a sample of about 15000 hands though and I think my blind play probably does need to be improved a bit.
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Old 10-27-2004, 07:08 PM #3 (permalink)  
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(.17) BB
(.08) SB

This is through 6000 hands at .25 and .50 cent limit games. I didn't include the .05 games - figured you wouldn't want those numbers.

I'm also losing (.01) from the button, which is disturbing...I'll have to go through the hands and see what is going on. Probably just a bad run from that position. I am winning from the other 7 spots.
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Old 10-28-2004, 12:29 AM #4 (permalink)  
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Just for funnies... In 400-odd hands of .50/1.0

BB +0.98/hand
Button -0.18/hand

Losses of about .25 in Button+1 and +2.

Overall 8BB/100 hands, Agression 1.53

I started analyzing it but realized that my biggest losing hand was 85os!
1 hand where I was small blind and the flop was A55. I bet it full on...into Rockets (limping pre-flop, no less). Lost $10.50, which is somewhat impressive.

My best hand is, of course "Not really big slick" aka T8s. Called a pre-flop raise from SB, hit the flush on the turn.

As we like to say in the baseball statistics business: "Small Sample Size".
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Old 10-28-2004, 01:20 AM #5 (permalink)  
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well i'm home now and just checked mine..


BB (.14) / 100
SB (.12) / 100
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Old 10-28-2004, 01:36 AM #6 (permalink)  
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2/4

This month (6,497 hands)
SB -.14
BB -.06

Entire DB (25,783)
SB -.10
BB -.16


Keep in mind that PokerTracker counts posting as the BB...
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Old 10-28-2004, 02:38 AM #7 (permalink)  
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while i'm on the subject of $$$ in the blinds.

Does it make sense that my most profitable position is the BB?
This is the "Diff w/o Blind"

Example
BB 1700 hands + $799 (after blinds are adjusted)
SB 1600 hands + $231 (after blinds are adjusted)
BT 1600 hands + $103
3 off 1500 hands + $178

This is over 14k hands.


The biggest difference I see is that my
went to SD in the BB is only 20 % WON $ @ SD = 60%
Otherer positions are closer to 35% WON $ @ SD = 55-58%


Wonder what else I'm doing in the blinds thats making this difference. TIME TO DIG..

If anyone has any clues as to where what to look at please post here
95% of my hands were between 8-10 players, so its not short handed play.
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Old 10-28-2004, 02:57 AM #8 (permalink)  
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Only thing I can think of is that you are seeing oodles of flops with rags, and when you hit, you can steath bomb.

If this is true, then win%/flop is lower, but potsize/win is greater.
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Old 10-28-2004, 03:19 AM #9 (permalink)  
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I would guess that the only reason you are making most of your money from the BB is that your sample size is still statastically pretty small and you have just flat out gotten your best hands from the BB. My position stats since getting poker tracker are also wierd with $614 won from 4 off the button and only $172 won from on the button. At first this looks like something is wrong with my play from the button, but at closer glance after ~1800 hands from the button, I have only gotten AA 5 times and KK 4 times. From 4 off the button however, I have gotten AA 8 times and KK 9 times.
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Old 10-29-2004, 03:56 PM #10 (permalink)  
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Hands 50k - All Limits
SB - (0.13)
BB - (0.12)

best Position UTG+1 0.18

Edit : Although UTG+1 is best position for BB/Won Hand for $$ it's CO followed by the Button which leads me to believe I may have/had a small leak.
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Old 10-29-2004, 04:25 PM #11 (permalink)  
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Toasty,
were your stats mostly 6 max?

good to see you around man
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Old 10-30-2004, 12:21 PM #12 (permalink)  
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Hey Mike how's going ?

I think there are about 30k of SH hands in there
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