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zenbitz

05-29-2007, 12:07 AM Post subject: Middle Set FR PLO $25

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Full Tilt Poker Game #2531719923: Table Peace - $0.10/$0.25 - Pot Limit Omaha - 20:02:31 ET - 2007/05/28
Seat 1: jacksonville ($54)
Seat 2: zenbitz ($22.20)
Seat 3: endhemell ($11.10)
Seat 4: dwarf_gobie ($26.70)
Seat 5: Humdinger11 ($26.35)
Seat 7: Dunit926 ($38.65)
Seat 8: money rocker ($10)
Seat 9: Sir_Holdem ($9.50)
jacksonville posts the small blind of $0.10
zenbitz posts the big blind of $0.25
money rocker posts a dead small blind of $0.10
money rocker posts $0.25
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to zenbitz [7c 7h 9s 9h]
endhemell folds
dwarf_gobie calls $0.25
Humdinger11 calls $0.25
Dunit926 calls $0.25
money rocker checks
Sir_Holdem calls $0.25
jacksonville calls $0.15
Luu777 sits down
zenbitz checks
*** FLOP *** [6c 7d Td]
Luu777 adds $25
jacksonville bets $1.85
zenbitz calls $1.85
dwarf_gobie calls $1.85
Humdinger11 folds
Dunit926 folds
money rocker calls $1.85
Sir_Holdem calls $1.85
*** TURN *** [6c 7d Td] [Th]
jacksonville bets $5.55
zenbitz...

Raise flop? Turn action?

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bigspenda73

05-29-2007, 12:20 AM

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Don't raise the flop

I wouldn't raise the flop wtih TT and I'd love to hear comments on that line of thinking.

I think the flop could even be a fold with all the redraws out there.

swiggidy

05-29-2007, 12:35 AM

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I don't like raising the flop. I wouldn't be surprised if someone flopped the nut-straight and I doubt you get all the flush draws to fold. I don't like folding the flop though since we still have a re-draw to the full-house.

Can we really put villain on TT, T7, T6? I call and hope some of the other 3 come along for the ride.

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bigspenda73

05-29-2007, 01:02 AM

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Swigg redraws are typically to the nuts (redraws worth playing I mean)

not to the 4th nuts or whatever this would be.

The fun thing about Omaha:

I have a 20k hand database from NL and I was never set over setted.

I've probably logged 10k omaha hands and I can safely say it's happened 15-20 times at least and some other times I folded bottom set. It's part of this game, I've set over setted many people too trouble is I was overplaying middle/bottom set and getting stacked more than I should have been.

zenbitz

05-29-2007, 03:33 AM

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I folded turn. My reasoning was that it was way too likely one of the bozos behind me had T6 or T7 even by accident.

Everyone folded and villian showed 66xx.

bigspenda73

05-29-2007, 03:47 AM

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well shit

I dont know what to tell you except....shit

I call the turn. At first I thought it was a pot-sized bet, then I realized it was just more than 1/2 pot.

His line is strong, but make sure you note that he overvalues his non-nut hands. That is a huge mistake in PLO.

KoRnholio

05-29-2007, 05:00 AM

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I usually just call the turn in these spots. I have mixed feelings about letting people behind me draw cheap if they have Txxx. But raising bloats the pot and sets us up for some negative implied odds on the river if someone boats up higher than us.

Being in position against the villain helps quite a bit. Those ~1/2 pot bets when the possible boat hits can mean a lot of different hands than the nuts. He could well be betting his straight still to see what he is up against (while not giving free cards to flush draws), or even just trips.

On the river if a bigger card comes (say a jack or queen) and he bets strong again, then we can consider folding.

Some days it feels like I've been standing forever, waiting for the bank teller to return so I can cash in all these Sklansky Bucks.

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