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Bmxicle

06-24-2005, 10:31 AM Post subject: Messing around at 5/10

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I'm almost definately playing above my skill level here, but i felt like giving it a try, left up like 4bb's. I definately see what people mean by there being a completely different level of suckouts at 5/10 6max. Heres a few hands for critiqueing, i'm still kinda a l1m1t n00b and i've never really put much time into it so feedback would be appreciated.

I couldn't resist stealing with my favorite crappy hand here. Villain defends BB every time from a button steal. I know i misplayed the river, but should i have check called or check folded?

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with 7

, T

.
3 folds, Hero raises, 1 fold, BB calls.

Flop: (4.40 SB) J

, 8

, 6

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls.

Turn: (3.20 BB) 8

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: (3.20 BB) 7

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB raises, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 7.20 BB

Results in white below:
BB has 5h 9c (straight, nine high).
Hero has 7h Th (two pair, eights and sevens).
Outcome: BB wins 7.20 BB.

Villain was pretty loose here and didn't seem very good, i got involved in too much betting when the queen showed up and i was pretty sure he hit two pair. At what point do i revert into call mode?

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP with 9

, 8

.
UTG calls, Hero calls, 2 folds, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 4

, 9

, 8

(4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets, Hero raises, SB folds, BB folds, UTG calls.

Turn: (4 BB) Q

(2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, UTG raises, Hero 3-bets, UTG calls.

River: (10 BB) 5

(2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, UTG raises, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 14 BB

Results in white below:
UTG has 9c Qc (two pair, queens and nines).
Hero has 9h 8h (two pair, nines and eights).
Outcome: UTG wins 14 BB.

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Nehmer

06-24-2005, 02:44 PM

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Hand 1 - The river is fine, lots of people at 5/10 will throw river bluffs out in situations like this, so I think you have to call down. I almost definately bet the turn in this situation though with a flush draw and inside straight draw given that both a 7 and 10 might be good too.

Hand 2 - looks fine to me.

Bmxicle

06-25-2005, 04:11 AM

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I was right, but is this a bad call down?

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8

, A

.
3 folds, Button raises, Hero 3-bets, BB calls, Button calls.

Flop: (9 SB) 5

, 5

, Q

(3 players)
Hero bets, BB folds, Button calls.

Turn: (5.50 BB) T

(2 players)
Hero bets, Button raises, Hero calls.

River: (9.50 BB) 7

(2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 11.50 BB

Results in white below:
Hero has 8s As (one pair, fives).
Button has 9d Js (one pair, fives).
Outcome: Hero wins 11.50 BB.

elipsesjeff

06-25-2005, 04:26 AM

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Yah. fold to the turn raise here.

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honsheung

06-25-2005, 03:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bmxicle

I was right, but is this a bad call down?

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8

, A

.
3 folds, Button raises, Hero 3-bets, BB calls, Button calls.

Flop: (9 SB) 5

, 5

, Q

(3 players)
Hero bets, BB folds, Button calls.

Turn: (5.50 BB) T

(2 players)
Hero bets, Button raises, Hero calls.

River: (9.50 BB) 7

(2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 11.50 BB

Results in white below:
Hero has 8s As (one pair, fives).
Button has 9d Js (one pair, fives).
Outcome: Hero wins 11.50 BB.

you won, why bad call down ?

Bmxicle

06-25-2005, 08:47 PM

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The range of hands wasn't there for me to make this call down imo. Although he probably wouldn't slowplay a 5 or a queen, he might not bet 66-jj on the flop. Although at the time i knew he would raise a draw, he would probably also raise any piece of the board.

Fnord

06-25-2005, 09:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by honsheung

you won, why bad call down ?

LMAO

This is exactly why so many people suck at poker.

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jmontis

06-26-2005, 04:11 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by honsheung

you won, why bad call down ?

simple, his play has negative expectation.

In poker, you raise AA every single time because of positive expectation.

calling a bet, a raise, and another bet with A high is a huge mistake.

read SSH if you're a limit player.

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