Originally Posted by DrivingDog

I prefer calling down here. The turn donk after you capped pre and raised his flop donk is very strong. He will never fold a better hand and we will get mauled by sets and two pair hands.

Raising would make sense if he would donk a 6x or FD hand here but if he's doing that he'd probably bet the river again anyways. If you raise he's almost always going to c/f the river UI, so you still only win two bets when you're ahead.

Of course, if he's on a complete bluff raising will just make him fold whereas calling will give him the chance to bluff again on the river.

There may be a few situations where raising gets you value - e.g., he has a pair and a draw and will call down UI, or thinks his AK is good and will call down, etc., but I don't think these arise often enough to make raising correct. It seems more likely he would just c/c these hands down since you've given no indication of being willing to fold.

Originally Posted by socal1111

Initially, I thought of only calling down, but...

I knew that he knew I couldn't check turn thru, due to my aggression... so if he was REALLY that strong, he'd C/R. His lead smelled very weak, and (IMO at the time) was done to slow down, and confuse me, not for value! I wanted to punish his middle pairs and all drws, w/ the ability to take free showdown if needed.

Originally Posted by DrivingDog

How does leading and giving you the chance to raise slow you down? If he wants to see a river card cheap he should check and call if you bet. If he wants to confuse you and create some fold equity he should c/r and rep a big hand himself. With all the draws popping up on the turn I think the former is better since you're more likely to put him on a draw.

Originally Posted by euphoricism

I like the flop raise. I call down on the turn. I dont want to put more than 2 bets in on the turn and river. I think you'll end up in a spot where youre putting 3 or more in (he raises, or donks the river too) while behind and 2 in while ahead if you raise turn (he folds)

The trickier a player is, the more straightforward I think you should play him. They have a tendency to out-trick themselves. The one thing a LAG hates is a calling station ;]