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Chopper

09-28-2009, 05:37 PM Post subject: Lunch hand IV..

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READ: villain was 60/40/5, so we feel he is bluffy on the turn, but do we like the river c/r?

Stacks:
UTG (13.3)
UTG+1 (18.15)
UTG+2 (9.65)
MP1 (11.9)
MP2 (9.95)
MP3 (20)
Hero (17.5)
BTN (4.3)
SB (7.5)
BB (10)

Pre-Flop: (1.4 SB, 10 players) Hero is CO

4 folds, MP2 calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, BTN calls, 2 folds, MP2 calls

Flop:

(7.4 SB, 3 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets, BTN calls, MP2 folds

Turn:

(4.7 BB, 2 players)
Hero bets, BTN raises, Hero scratches head and calls.

River:

(8.7 BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets, Hero raises, BTN 3-bets, Hero PUKES!

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LawDude

09-28-2009, 05:52 PM Post subject: Re: Lunch hand IV..

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chopper

4 folds, MP2 calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, BTN calls, 2 folds, MP2 calls

Flop:

(7.4 SB, 3 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets, BTN calls, MP2 folds

Turn:

(4.7 BB, 2 players)
Hero bets, BTN raises, Hero scratches head and calls.

River:

(8.7 BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets, Hero raises, BTN 3-bets, Hero PUKES!

Well, I think you have to call. This is a pretty dry board for queens and this guy has maniac-like numbers.

But I am not sure I like the river check-raise. I can see positives and negatives for it. The only things you are afraid of here are aces or kings, a 2, a boat, or quads, so I know you figure that the range of hands betting the river behind you are going to include quite a lot of hands you beat, but on the other hand, if he really is raising the turn out of a position of strength, you are just giving him more bets by check-raising rather than check-calling.

But that's really read-dependent-- if you figure you can extract value from this guy often enough, there's nothing wrong with it.

But the bottom line story of this hand is you had queens, you got a very good board for queens, and if he beats you, he beats you, right?

Chopper

09-28-2009, 09:09 PM

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i tossed AA and KK out from his preflop action. it is a rare maniac that wont 3bet those since he 3bets so much other crap. so, i think its highly doubtful that those hands are there.

i have him on pp's. some sets, sure. and, i didnt think the 2 was likely for whatever reason. i just didnt see him doing that, unless he thought i was full of shit. i usually see them slow play a street after their yahtzee card, but obviously some just keep the gas on as well.

bottom line, for me, yes....if we are beat we are beat. i just didnt see anything other than a set beating me. 99-JJ and AX (not AQ+) is what i expected to see, so i went for the c/r because i felt HE was full of crap.

but, the 3bet really made me sit back in my chair. so, i sort of went in the tank on that one and almost folded. i called and found JJ.

i wonder what he thought he would find? AK? certainly not 99. maybe AX of clubs?

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