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zachaser
Old 08-15-2008, 02:24 AM     Post subject: Losing money on my big hands (Stars .50/1) #1 (permalink)  
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Just wanted to do a checkup to see if I'm playing ok. Played a session tonight, two tables of .50/1 on Stars. Was looking for tables with a high amount of players PF and lots of hands/hour. I ended up running 15.6/9.6/1.6 on one table, and 22.3/18.0/2.7 on the other. Anyways, I ended up down about 30 BB's, not sure how standard that is two tabling. Anyways, just wanted to post my big losers. Any comments are appreciated.

By the way, I can put hands through the converter, but when I copy and paste them it never shows up right.

Hand 1-Villain is lagtard fish.

PokerStars Game #19622294064: Hold'em Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2008/08/14 - 20:26:06 (ET)
Table 'Wurm' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: firefly747 ($31.50 in chips)
Seat 2: maxgladius ($28.20 in chips)
Seat 3: zachaser ($30 in chips)
Seat 4: schleppel ($55.60 in chips)
Seat 5: Poker Mano ($22.95 in chips)
Seat 6: Chromis ($23.15 in chips)
firefly747: posts small blind $0.25
maxgladius: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to zachaser [Ac Kd]
zachaser: raises $0.50 to $1
schleppel: folds
Poker Mano: calls $1
Chromis: folds
firefly747: folds
maxgladius: calls $0.50
*** FLOP *** [6c 8s Ah]
maxgladius: checks
zachaser: bets $0.50
Poker Mano: calls $0.50
maxgladius: folds
*** TURN *** [6c 8s Ah] [5c]
zachaser: bets $1
Poker Mano: raises $1 to $2
zachaser: raises $1 to $3--> I know the turn c/r usually means a good hand, but there's a million worse Aces I beat, plus any middle/bottom pairs that picked up a flush draw.
Poker Mano: raises $1 to $4
Betting is capped
zachaser: calls $1
*** RIVER *** [6c 8s Ah 5c] [Qh]
zachaser: checks <-- I opt to just c/c because of the turn action, and the Q makes one less Ace I beat.
Poker Mano: bets $1
zachaser: calls $1
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Poker Mano: shows [6h Ad] (two pair, Aces and Sixes)
zachaser: mucks hand
Poker Mano collected $13.75 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $14.25 | Rake $0.50
Board [6c 8s Ah 5c Qh]
Seat 1: firefly747 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: maxgladius (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: zachaser mucked [Ac Kd]
Seat 4: schleppel folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Poker Mano showed [6h Ad] and won ($13.75) with two pair, Aces and Sixes
Seat 6: Chromis (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Hand 2 Mano is villain from hand 1, schleppel has been pretty quiet.

PokerStars Game #19622549662: Hold'em Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2008/08/14 - 20:37:24 (ET)
Table 'Wurm' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 2: maxgladius ($26.20 in chips)
Seat 3: zachaser ($29.60 in chips)
Seat 4: schleppel ($54.50 in chips)
Seat 5: Poker Mano ($19.85 in chips)
Seat 6: Chromis ($22 in chips)
maxgladius: posts small blind $0.25
zachaser: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to zachaser [Ks Ah]
schleppel: raises $0.50 to $1
Poker Mano: calls $1
Chromis: folds
maxgladius: folds
zachaser: raises $0.50 to $1.50
schleppel: raises $0.50 to $2
Betting is capped
Poker Mano: calls $1
zachaser: calls $0.50
*** FLOP *** [Kc 5h 6c]
zachaser: checks
schleppel: bets $0.50
Poker Mano: raises $0.50 to $1
zachaser: raises $0.50 to $1.50
schleppel: raises $0.50 to $2
Betting is capped
Poker Mano: calls $1
zachaser: calls $0.50
*** TURN *** [Kc 5h 6c] [7s]
zachaser: checks <-- With all the 3 way flop action, I just want to get to showdown cheap. At this point I'm suspecting a big pair, I don't know if I should fold here or not.
schleppel: bets $1
Poker Mano: calls $1
zachaser: calls $1
*** RIVER *** [Kc 5h 6c 7s] [2c]
zachaser: checks
schleppel: bets $1
Poker Mano: folds
zachaser: calls $1<-- Call getting the odds right?

Hand 3 No real reads except villain is loose/limptard.

PokerStars Game #19622983825: Hold'em Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2008/08/14 - 20:56:49 (ET)
Table 'Wurm' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: wildwizardof ($15.10 in chips)
Seat 2: maxgladius ($23.05 in chips)
Seat 3: zachaser ($19.20 in chips)
Seat 5: Poker Mano ($22.80 in chips)
Seat 6: kissypaw ($9.75 in chips)
kissypaw: posts small blind $0.25
wildwizardof: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to zachaser [Qd Ah]
schleppel has returned
maxgladius: folds
zachaser: raises $0.50 to $1
Poker Mano: calls $1
kissypaw: calls $0.75
wildwizardof: calls $0.50
*** FLOP *** [Ks Qs 5d]
kissypaw: checks
wildwizardof: checks
zachaser: bets $0.50
Poker Mano: folds
kissypaw: calls $0.50
wildwizardof: folds
*** TURN *** [Ks Qs 5d] [Kd]
kissypaw: checks
zachaser: bets $1<-- Don't really know how to play these middle pair spots, as I'm not too great at putting people on ranges on the spot just yet.
kissypaw: calls $1
*** RIVER *** [Ks Qs 5d Kd] [8d]
kissypaw: bets $1
zachaser: calls $1

Hand 4 Villain is limptardish.

PokerStars Game #19623067648: Hold'em Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2008/08/14 - 21:00:37 (ET)
Table 'Pafuri' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: coreymills ($22.70 in chips)
Seat 2: VN007 ($20.50 in chips)
Seat 3: JazzCat420 ($6.50 in chips)
Seat 4: london1o1 ($30.50 in chips)
Seat 5: 843larry ($22.50 in chips)
Seat 6: zachaser ($27.85 in chips)
coreymills: posts small blind $0.25
VN007: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to zachaser [Kd Kh]
JazzCat420: calls $0.50
london1o1: folds
843larry: folds
zachaser: raises $0.50 to $1
coreymills: folds
VN007: calls $0.50
JazzCat420: calls $0.50
*** FLOP *** [9h 6h Jc]
VN007: checks
JazzCat420: checks
zachaser: bets $0.50
VN007: calls $0.50
JazzCat420: calls $0.50
*** TURN *** [9h 6h Jc] [Tc]
VN007: checks
JazzCat420: checks
zachaser: bets $1
VN007: calls $1
JazzCat420: raises $1 to $2
zachaser: calls $1
VN007: folds
*** RIVER *** [9h 6h Jc Tc] [Ac]
JazzCat420: bets $1
zachaser: calls $1<-- Horrible river card, but can't fold because of odds right?

Hand 5 No real reads on villain.

PokerStars Game #19623767275: Hold'em Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2008/08/14 - 21:31:40 (ET)
Table 'Pafuri' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: pilajo ($28.30 in chips)
Seat 2: makeit1 ($11.90 in chips)
Seat 3: BCheezy ($31.75 in chips)
Seat 4: london1o1 ($32.30 in chips)
Seat 5: 843larry ($20.25 in chips)
Seat 6: zachaser ($37.40 in chips)
pilajo: posts small blind $0.25
makeit1: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to zachaser [Ac 9c]
BCheezy: folds
london1o1: folds
843larry: folds
zachaser: raises $0.50 to $1
pilajo: calls $0.75
makeit1: folds
*** FLOP *** [2d 9d 8d]
pilajo: bets $0.50
zachaser: raises $0.50 to $1
pilajo: calls $0.50
*** TURN *** [2d 9d 8d] [Qs]
pilajo: checks
zachaser: bets $1
pilajo: calls $1
*** RIVER *** [2d 9d 8d Qs] [5d]
pilajo: bets $1
zachaser: folds

Thanks again, guys.
Chase
 
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socal1111
Old 08-15-2008, 05:03 AM #2 (permalink)  
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First off ... pretty well played!

If you're going to be playing 6max regularly, gotta get those numbers up - 29/24-ish.

1) At this limit, turn raise is powerful. Save the 3bet for call down.

2)Never Ever fold this turn. Being OOP, can't see river cheap... gotta clench your cheeks, and get ready to see AA/KK/ hopefully chop.

3) Good! Turn = Value bet/ River call

4) I like re-raise turn (only because soo draw heavy), but I may be spewing here.. c/c river. It really depends on villain's stats and your perception of his ability.

5) What are his showdown #'s? This is tough, not being there. Prolly easy fold, tho.
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Old 08-15-2008, 07:20 AM #3 (permalink)  
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First things first:
http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php
use it

1) Turn raise is usually two pair or better. I call the turn and call the river.
2) Nice hand
3) Nice hand
4) Nice hand
5) Is my call here spew? I mean if it's an easy fold for you, isn't that exploitable?

Comment: losing 30BB isn't anything you should worry about, I've lost 50+ and I've been playing just fine
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okiman
Old 08-15-2008, 05:36 PM #4 (permalink)  
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I'm a small stakes full ring player, so I won't comment on the hands as others will give much better advice.

As far as the swings, I went through a 100+BB downswing last week and have been grinding back up ever since. Given the variance will be much higher in 6-max, don't worry about the size of the downswing. Just keep focusing on solid play.
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