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Old 02-23-2006, 08:33 PM     Post subject: Loose flop calls #1 (permalink)  
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Raising villian is a standard tag... With almost 10:1 on the flop check/raise, am I right to make the loose call here?

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Preflop: Hero is MP with K, Q.
1 fold, Hero raises, 1 fold, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 2, 5, J (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, SB calls, BB raises, Hero calls, SB calls.

Turn: (6 BB) K (3 players)
SB checks, BB bets, Hero calls, SB calls.

River: (9 BB) 4 (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 9 BB
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Old 02-23-2006, 09:44 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Flop: fine (he could be raising all sorts of stuff here so often your overs a good and you have 2 backdoor draws inthere aswell thus it's an easy call in my book)

Turn: Fine

River: VALUEBET..!!! ok SB could be trying for a checkraise but I still think you need to bet when checked to.
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Old 02-23-2006, 11:15 PM #3 (permalink)  
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 I agree with beaver, bet/folding the flop 1 sb sucks monkey balls.


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Old 02-24-2006, 01:28 AM #4 (permalink)  
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What about raising the turn to eliminate the small blind and isolate a player who is likely behind? What types of hands do you think the tight aggressive player is check-raising the flop with? Most typical players have pretty loose check-raising standards facing a likely continuation bet.
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Old 02-26-2006, 06:17 AM #5 (permalink)  
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hand is fine, bet the river!
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Old 02-26-2006, 06:30 AM #6 (permalink)  
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I don't mind the hand at all. I'm ABSOLUTELY not folding the flop to one bet. But seriously, what is the BB check raising with? The only hand I see the BB check raising with and NOT winning at showdown is a pair of jacks or a complete bluff (who then would not call a river value bet)... otherwise BB is showing down either a completed straight draw (who a weak-tightie would check with after that river) or a flush draw (looking to check raise). I absolutely do not mind the river check

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Old 02-27-2006, 08:27 PM #7 (permalink)  
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Check raise can sometimes be an aggressive player pushing around with nothing on the jack high into your raising range. I don't think you ever fold the check raise.
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