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Gatlin Dan
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08-03-2005, 05:24 AM
Post subject: Looking for leaks (PT stats after 27K hands)
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I've been spending a lot of time in PT lately (almost as much time as I have spent playing recently). My game is getting better, but there's always room for more improvement.
What do you guys think of these?
If there is any other stats you want to know, ask and I will post them up. These are .5/1 hands.
I have been thinking a long time about moving up but am worried about not being able to beat the rake at higher limits like 2/4.
All comments, opinions, and criticism (related to these stats) greatly appreciated.
VP$IP 18.86
VP$SB 35.21
FSB2S 79.22
FBB2S 63.55
W$WSF 32.99
W2SD 36.25
W$SD 50.22
PFR 8.12
BB/100 5.09
AGG FACTOR:
F: 2.13
T: 2.34
R: 1.88
Total Agg Factor (post-flop) 2.13
Anything seem out of whack or striking here?
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poskid_1982
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I wouldnt worry too much about not being able to beat the rake at higher limits. Destroying the game at 5BB/100 is a good sign. I've found most 2/4 tables are plagued with weak tighties. If you have the BR I think you can and should move up.
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Superb play sir...I always call 20% of my stack off with a gutshot draw. Excuse me while I race for my wallet.
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Phyl
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You might want to work on upping your winrate more before you take on a rock solid game like the Party 2/4. Can never be too carefull.
Stats are good. Move the hell up!
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TylerK
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Originally Posted by Phyl
You might want to work on upping your winrate more before you take on a rock solid game like the Party 2/4. Can never be too carefull.
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TylerK: its just gambling if i want to worry about money i'll go to work lol
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Bmxicle
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i don't appreciate that sarcasm, i almost beleived you as a NL player.
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A'aag
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Straight
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I think it's obvious you're ready to move up. It looks like you call down a lot (high WTSD, low W$SD) which will be less and less profitable the higher you move up. Your FBB is a bit high, but again, this is something that only matters as you move up more. Can't argue with that win rate. Unless you've been cashing out a lot, you must be bankrolled for at least 1/2 and probably 2/4 depending on how many BB you're comfortable with.
lol @ Phyl
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Fnord
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Bigger games tend to be aggressive so I end up calling down more often.
I played 1k hands earlier this week and had a 14% PFR, lol...
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A'aag
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Straight
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Originally Posted by Fnord
Bigger games tend to be aggressive so I end up calling down more often.
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Good point, but 36% still seems high; maybe it's a product of people calling him down with marginal hands more...
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Gatlin Dan
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Originally Posted by A'aag
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Originally Posted by Fnord
Bigger games tend to be aggressive so I end up calling down more often.
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Good point, but 36% still seems high; maybe it's a product of people calling him down with marginal hands more...
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I think this is the case here. I've tried to play with the idea of moving up, especially lately. I know as the tables tighten up at higher levels, I will be taking hands farther.that seem to have little chance of winning at looser tables.
I've been working on playing more hands from the blinds as well. I lose an incredible amount of money from the blinds.
Anybody know what good stats from the blinds would be? I've been completing from the sb more and defending the bb more against raises as of late. I know I will find myself defending my blinds more after moving up and want to try to fine tune some things concerning blind play.
I think playing from the blinds is the biggest leak in my game right now.
I was bankrolled for 3/6 until I cashed out a good portion this morning. I'm still rolled for 2/4 but am a little weak tight concerning the idea of moving up.
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jmontis
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why move up? party 2-4 is not a tough game to beat if you have the roll for it.
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take your ego out of the equation and judge the situation dispassionately
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elipsesjeff
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Originally Posted by jmontis
why move up? party 2-4 is not a tough game to beat if you have the roll for it.
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Rake effects you less and less the more you move up. Also, the higher you go the more money you can make.
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TylerK
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Originally Posted by elipsesjeff
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Originally Posted by jmontis
why move up? party 2-4 is not a tough game to beat if you have the roll for it.
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Rake effects you less and less the more you move up. Also, the higher you go the more money you can make.
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I'm pretty sure he meant why *not* move up.
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TylerK: its just gambling if i want to worry about money i'll go to work lol
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gutshot
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Go to 2/4, do not pass go, do not collect $200.
The game is so damn similar to 1/2 that I have no doubt you can kill it. Sack up and do it.
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-jay
"i think the biggest leak in my game is using 2nd level thinking against players who can't think on the first level." -Renton
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Gatlin Dan
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Originally Posted by gutshot
Go to 2/4, do not pass go, do not collect $200.
The game is so damn similar to 1/2 that I have no doubt you can kill it. Sack up and do it.
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How are they similar?
My impression is that the rake structure and the tricky cuteness of the players at 1/2 make the game different than 2/4.
Am I too worried about the subtleties and losing sight of the obvious?
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gutshot
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Full House
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Originally Posted by Gatlin Dan
How are they similar?
My impression is that the rake structure and the tricky cuteness of the players at 1/2 make the game different than 2/4.
Am I too worried about the subtleties and losing sight of the obvious?
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Yes.
The table textures that I run into at 2/4 remind me alot of 1/2. Couple(maybe) TAgs, several LPP, peppered with a gambler or taz. Isolating the taz players is fun and profitable. Just more money on the table and a little less rake exposure. Come on in, the water's fine.
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-jay
"i think the biggest leak in my game is using 2nd level thinking against players who can't think on the first level." -Renton
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