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| codemanz4 |
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Greetings limit fans, Just wanted to say hi and introduce myself. Incredible as it sounds, I have been reading FTR for over five years, but I only registered this morning! What promted me to do this? Well, I've been following the posts of Chopper and Lawdude for some time, and see that they account for over 60% of the posts on this forum. I think they need some support/company. In a world in which no-limit is supposed to be THE GAME, it's nice to know there are a few people who prefer limit and are not afraid to admit it. Since I'm at work I won't go into my whole life story (that's for another post) but suffice it to say I began playing poker when most everyone else did, in 2004, after the Moneymaker boom started. I've tried no limit and I absolutely detest it; it makes my stomach turn, and while I may make more money with it, I don't think it's worth doing if you're not having fun. I have a pretty nice job (college professor) so I'm not looking to play for a living and play 8 hours a day (yuck) without any health benefits or social life like some internet "pros". Chopper, I'm especailly encouraged when you say .25/.50 is very beatable (let me know what you think of .50/1 after you play enough hands). It gives me something to look forward to. Recently I practically started all over rebuiding my bankroll (long story) and am now grinding .10/.20 and am forcing myself to stay on that level until I play 30,000 hands and have at least $150. But I am content, because I have learned to be content, and also I appear to be winning at this (albeit low) limit right now. Again, I'll give you more details later and might even post some hands or two, once I figure out how this converter works. I look forward to the mutual support on our journey. codemanz4 |
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| LawDude |
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| Welcome codemanz. We do have some other limit players here. BennyLaRue is a very skilled player who posts a lot of good stuff. Kornholio posts here and knows a lot. There are a few others as well. Plus, there are some players on the no limit boards (such as Fnord and Spenda) who played quite a lot of limit and were very good players-- they can answer a question if you have one as well. | ||
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| Chopper |
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codemanz comes to FTR....i can see the headline. good to have you, and thanks for finally getting off the fence and joining in. i think you will get even more out of the forum through participation....i know i have. you sound a lot like me in that little intro. i look forward to more......as long as we always agree...  as for 25/50c, it IS beatable by a good bit. you should be chomping at the bit to get up there asap. if you have read SSHE, you will see the starting hand guidelines for "loose" and "tight" games. i follow the tight guidelines almost to a T. i just dont see enough 6ways online anymore. post flop is all about relative position, building/protecting pots, and stealing blinds (or appearing to). you can also cheaply work on defense if the right player is picking on you. that's about all you need to beat 25/50c, imo. but, you probably already know that. i will reserve commentary on 50/1 for a little longer. but, i can tell you i dont see much of a difference. the biggest difference being the numbers of players paying off. 50/1 has fewer pay-off-wizards BY FAR. but, they still seem to take weak hand too far....they just dont jam with them thinking Q8 is the nuts anymore. so, my rate has taken a hit. but, i also think it could be just variance because i havent run like God himself yet. i had a nice run to start, but it quickly cooled off. i can tell stealing is very profitable. and, blind defense is a key skill here. but, basically, i am finding the same basic stuff. oh, i am starting to find more MMT HUD-nits that are only interested in accumulating FPPs. they can be frustrating when they clog up the tables. so, seat selection becomes a little more important, too. i think i want to jam through 50/1, and get through 1/2 as quickly as possible, now....where i didnt care before. if i want to make a little more money (i have no desire to do this for a living but it does provide some neat perks, spending money wise), i need to move up. and, to move up and still have fun, i need to get past the "FPP pros." but, obv, we need to learn how to beat them before we move past them. sorry that got long. its just nice to see a new voice that appears to be here for longer than 5 minutes. please feel free to comment/question on any of our hands and post your own questions. lets get this forum going! |
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LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.
Nothing beats flopping quads while dropping a duece!
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| btw, what's in Macomb? is it Western Illinois? i will never claim to be a Rams' fan, but i know they used to head up there and stay in your dorms for training camp. you arent too far away. | ||
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LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.
Nothing beats flopping quads while dropping a duece!
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PokerStars Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com Preflop: Hero is SB with A  , 42 folds, MP1 calls, 4 folds, Hero raises, 1 fold, MP1 calls Flop: (5 SB) J , 4 , 6 (2 players)Hero bets, MP1 calls Turn: (3.5 BB) K (2 players)Hero bets, MP1 raises, Hero 3-bets, MP1 caps, Hero calls River: (11.5 BB) 7  (2 players)Hero bets, MP1 raises, Hero 3-bets, MP1 caps, Hero calls Total pot: $19.50 (19.5 BB) | Rake: $0.50 Results: Hero had A , 4 (flush, Ace high).MP1 had 9 , Q (flush, King high).Outcome: Hero won $19 |
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| Chopper |
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i didnt say there were no more POW's. i just said i am finding them less frequently. i can show you pot after pot where stupid players overplayed stupid hands. but, in my db so far, i bet it's 3:1 from 25/50 to 50/1. thats the only point i was trying to make with that comment. but, that can also be said of every level you move up through. |
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LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.
Nothing beats flopping quads while dropping a duece!
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| codemanz4 |
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Thanks for the encouraging words, chopper. I was beating .25/.50 in Janury and February, then I had a minor rough patch and went on tilt. When I go on tilt, I don't mean open rasing with 83o UTG (only in a live game with friends and alcohol). I mean I get frustrated and switch games, like to SNGs, or tournaments, or Omaha or stud or even (gulp) NLHE. None of these games are as good as LHE (for me anyway) so I lose money and eventually return to LHE with a smaller bankroll. That's why I think I'm a long term loser so far: I can't pick a game and stick with it. Incidently, every time I do stick with a game for a fixed period of time, I almost always win. So I want to play .10/.20 for at least the end of the year, hopefully I will be at $150 by then and can move up. As for Macomb, yes, I'm a teacher at Western Illinois University. I came here in 2003, when the Rams were still here for training camp. They left in 2005, though, because (they said) we were just too isolated. I never was that much of a Rams fan (although I do admire Kurt Warner), but after they left I rooted against them. That seemed to work; they are 1-8 this year, I think. Anyway, I've got my own mediocre team to root for: the Cleveland Browns. |
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if cleveland and st louis are your football teams, you are in sad shape...lol. yeah, kurt is a great guy from what i know, too. great role model. i root for him out in arizona. the rest of the team can go you know where for leaving STL when i was a kid.  good plan to stay with a game for longer periods of time. again, though, the best way to get better is to play a hand you develop a question about, immediately open your "notepad" if you have a PC, and copy/paste the HH in there for later. when your session is over, convert the HH and post it to FTR with any reads and your question spot. we can help you faster that way. if you get in the habit of copy/pasting hands in notepad, i think it makes the HH posting easier to get into FTR. i play multiple games, too. if you havent noticed, i havent posted much this week. its because i have been dabbling with NL again. i will play some HORSE/O8, but mostly i go after NL micros and bully off some short stacks to get my aggression out of my system. there isnt anything wrong with that, imo, if you do so at limits that wont damage your roll...and dont let it go too far. even daniel negreanu said he would have "tilt fridays" when he was grinding in toronto. he would try to play about 40% of his hands and he said it cost him a lot of money, but made him a better hand reader in the process. of course, he never let it cut into his winnings for the week. and, erik lindgren will tell you to try and play a session where you play, literally, 90% of your hands to learn when to shift gears and recognize when players are starting to play back at you. of course, you drop SEVERAL levels when you are going to play this type of session. these are ways some of the pros have learned to deal with frustration, variance, and tilt....and turn it into a positive. if you were beating the game in jaunuary, you will beat it again, if you keep your lid on. keep grinding.....and post some hands. |
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LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.
Nothing beats flopping quads while dropping a duece!
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