Originally Posted by LawDude

I think it's bad, but not terrible.

It's bad because he's cold-calling a raise with 87s without enough players in the pot. I'm also not sure that I like the flop bet-- he's taking a stab that his 8's are good but they are often not.

However (and this may surprise you given our previous discussions), I like the turn raise, not as a semi-bluff (you probably got a piece of the flop or have a straight draw) but as a value bet. He's getting 7 1/2 to 1 on a flush draw on the river (his 2 pair and trips outs are dirty) and he's gonna get paid off if he hits because you aren't likely to fold to a runner-runner flush.

Originally Posted by KoRnholio

I don't mind his turn raise either. He'll make you think about folding hands like A9/A8/T9, possibly even a weak king. I'm sure people limping hands like K5s UTG isn't all that uncommon, so for all he knows there are top pair-no kicker type hands in your range. And if he is wrong, he usually has 11-14 outs to hit on the river, or can just check behind since you will often check to him.

Originally Posted by Chopper

doesnt necessarily surprise me, but i wonder......can YOU make that raise?

i noted him, but don't want to give him a lot of credit, yet, for knowing what he did.

i hope he didnt think i would play weak kickers oop like that. but, you are right, it isnt that uncommon to see.

actually, i DO hope he thought that. he will call down with K9 more often if he does think like that.