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AidanN20
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03-21-2005, 09:27 PM
Post subject: Local B&M $2/4-$3/6, not one decent player at any table
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3-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Feb 2005
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Ive went down to the local casino a few times lately and no joke, not one single person in any way,shape or form has any ability at all.
I would put the avg VP$IP of a player at 50-75%
BUT i get my asssss kicked. Last time down there I played maybe 10 hands total in the 3 hours. And I lost my ass being drawn out by the 7 people who went to showdown argh......
Anyone have a style for these crazy loose/aggressive games?
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RiverMonkey
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Flush
Join Date: Nov 2004
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Yes, but let me ask you a few questions first.
o What have you been using as your starting hand requirements in these games? How are you varying it with position; EP, MP, LP, SB, BB and OTB?
o Much pre-flop raising? How often? Any correlation to position? What are their typical pre-flop raising stds.?
o What are your pre-flop raising stds. and how are you varying them with absolute and relative position?
o On average, how many limpers are seeing the flops?
o Aside from being 'clueless' (which I equate to "they are just plain bad ... especially after-the-flop") are the players loose & passive, or just loose?
o How long is your average playing session? I'll tell you why I think this is relevant later.
o What's the blind structure in the $3/6 game? I'm assuming $1, $3, and not $2/3.
o And, most importantly, have you read, read and then re-read SSH?
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Chicago_Kid
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Full House
Join Date: Aug 2004
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by RiverMonkey
And, most importantly, have you read, read and then re-read SSH?
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In games like this (assuming LAPPY) I want to play as many suited, connector, and suited 1-gap hands as possible. Just sit on them, and clean up. If there are lots of callers, you're gonna have odds to stay with any draw---and eventually you'll hit a couple big ones. So, e.g, J9s definitely plays.
Now, if it gets LAGGY, you need to focus on individual opponent hand selection, build some credibility and start re-raising at people. If they're really bad, they don't even consider position, only whether they have any K or A.
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jmontis
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Full House
Join Date: Dec 2004
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a game like this, you WANT to see a lot of flops with hands like Chicago kid mentioned. If it's late position, i'd play just about ANY suited connector. in the first 3-4 seats only play the premium cards.
Also, you're big pairs are going to go way down in value obviously if you have 4-5 callers, so be cautious.
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Tripps7
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Straight
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 130
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I play these loopy type of games often. Somenights you just get drawn out on the river on what seems like every other hand. But you will also get called down with A rag with your TPTK all night. I Play the Axs, Kxs, suited connectors, connecters and suited one gappers from LP in the loose games for one bet as much as I can.
Also if you can afford it jump up to $5-10. It gets a little saner, which just means a little less variance. At my local B&M, the 5-10 players are about the same as the PP $2-4. Somenights even worse...
When you go just make sure you have enough time, patience and $$$$....
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Chicago_Kid
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Full House
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I will say as an afterthought, you've got to call down second pair in these games. I think you have to show people that you WILL NOT Be Bluffed. This can Be done By telling them so as well.
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Gatlin Dan
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Join Date: Nov 2004
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This sounds like playing .5/1 party on Friday nights. You're going to see large swings. You will have those nights were you get drawed out on but you will have nights where your draws seem to come in all not long as well, provided you are playing hands that give you the opportunity to make big draws.
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elipsesjeff
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Just Value bet your hands to death. You'll win eventually, and big pots too.
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Gatlin Dan
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You have to be comfortable building big pots and playing well in them to take full advantage of games like this. Use check-raises liberally when appropriate to help you trap the field for extra bets, especially on the turn.
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