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Old 08-17-2009, 09:55 PM     Post subject: live hand, MGM #1 (permalink)  
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The question is: should I have capped this on all streets?

This was at MGM Grand this weekend, 2/4 limit donkathon. Table is super passive and loose, almost every hand is bet/called all the way down and no one has been raising.

Hero limps UTG with 99. Almost everyone limps.

Flop: K 9 5

Hero bets, MP1 raises. MP2 cold calls. I reraise, two callers.

Turn: 5

I bet, MP1 raises, MP2 cold calls.

I stop and think: MP1 is an old guy, I don't think he has KK since he did not raise preflop. I can't put him on a hand. MP2 has me baffled, he's just an odd person. I start getting worried that one of them has 55. MP2 is so weird he could be a calling station with KK. Granted, this was at 1am and I was not thinking straight. I have a freaking boat.

I call and check/call on the river. MP1 has A5, and MP2 is brain dead and just has a K.

I missed out on several bets. In hindsight, at low limit donkfests, I have to cap on all streets here, even with two opponents, don't I?
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Old 08-17-2009, 10:01 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Yep, easy caps. Especially with that 3rd guy coming along for the ride with virtually no chance of having you beat.
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Old 08-18-2009, 06:46 PM #3 (permalink)  
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You have to play this extremely aggressively. Yes, if an established total nit starts re-raising me I might call the last bet, but basically, when you have this big a hand (a set or a boat made through a set and a paired board), limit plays a lot like no limit-- you want to figure out how to get as many of your chips into the pot as possible and get other players at the table to do the same. Because the chances that you are behind are miniscule. You are afraid of KK and 55 here-- that's it. Even if someone did pre-flop raise and played really aggressively after the flop you wouldn't be too worried-- the player might have pocket aces or AK or something. And without a pre-flop raise, you are afraid of KK even less, which leaves the absolute improbability of quads.

So go ahead and get your chips in the middle.
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eikcaj
Old 08-20-2009, 07:00 PM #4 (permalink)  

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I found that I was doing exactly the same thing. Finally get a good hand and start to worry when they call or raise me!

I agree the chances that they are beating your hand is so small that the (very) few times you lose is more than covered by the increase in winnings when you win. Unless I have noticed my opponent is very tight I now bet the hell out of these situations.

Haven't regretted it yet.
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