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Tripps7
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12-27-2005, 09:11 PM
Post subject: Live 3/6 hand (LC)
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Straight
Join Date: Jan 2005
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Live 3/6 hand from memory. Game is very loose passive.
I am in CO. Ad 10d. tight passive woman in ep +1 has been there 3 hours and has not raised a single hand. She just calls or folds. She has shown down a straight, flush, QQ and a set (twice) without raising on any street.
TP Woman limps, 3 other limpers, I raise. Button folds. SB folds. BB calls as do everyone else.
Flop: A 7 4 rainbow.
Checked to me. I bet. BB calls, TP woman calls, other 3 fold.
Turn: blank. (no flush draw)
Checked to me. I bet. BB folds. TP Woman calls.
Turn: Js
TP Woman Check/Calls my bet.
She flips over AKo. I lose.
I told the guy next to me after she called my flop bet, "I guarantee she out kicks me". My question is, do I trust my read and not bet the river or just keep value betting? I almost checked the river but my natural aggro self wouldn't allow it...
I think this is the only thing that gets to me about the loose passive small stakes game. I can deal with the gutshot or two pair on the river, its the strong hands that get check/called to the river that bug me.
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Fnord
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If she's *tight*, checking behind the river is fine.
Don't much care for the chatter on the flop. Be nice to her.
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Romulus141
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12-27-2005, 11:09 PM
Post subject: Re: Live 3/6 hand (LC)
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Straight
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Oxford, PA
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Originally Posted by Tripps7
Live 3/6 hand from memory. Game is very loose passive.
I am in CO. Ad 10d. tight passive woman in ep +1 has been there 3 hours and has not raised a single hand. She just calls or folds. She has shown down a straight, flush, QQ and a set (twice) without raising on any street.
TP Woman limps, 3 other limpers, I raise. Button folds. SB folds. BB calls as do everyone else.
Flop: A 7 4 rainbow.
Checked to me. I bet. BB calls, TP woman calls, other 3 fold.
Turn: blank. (no flush draw)
Checked to me. I bet. BB folds. TP Woman calls.
Turn: Js
TP Woman Check/Calls my bet.
She flips over AKo. I lose.
I told the guy next to me after she called my flop bet, "I guarantee she out kicks me". My question is, do I trust my read and not bet the river or just keep value betting? I almost checked the river but my natural aggro self wouldn't allow it...
I think this is the only thing that gets to me about the loose passive small stakes game. I can deal with the gutshot or two pair on the river, its the strong hands that get check/called to the river that bug me. |
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If you are the only one betting and no one else is raising, as long as you have something reasonable, it's never a terrible line. You managed to get the whole table but her to fold.
The question is, does she only limp in with premium hands? If so, then yes, you can trust your hunch. However, if you have seen her limp with crap and she's in 30+ percent of the time in the pot, just keep pounding. You'll get her in the longrun.
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Romulus141
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Originally Posted by Fnord
Don't much care for the chatter on the flop. Be nice to her.
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Exactly, these players are your bread and butter. Encourage them to play terribly, don't give them reasons to fold against you or leave the table.
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Tripps7
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Straight
Join Date: Jan 2005
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Fnord
If she's *tight*, checking behind the river is fine.
Don't much care for the chatter on the flop. Be nice to her.
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Don't worry, the chatter was very discreet. The guy next to me was a regular that I know and he was the only one that heard me. Believe me, I know exactly how and where my money comes from.
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Xanadu
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Full House
Join Date: May 2005
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I was playing a live 3/6 game last week with 2 players at the table just like the woman at your table. The one guy, in 4 hours he didn't bet or raise once. He called or folded. He was getting lucky, and probably showed down 15 hands over the 4 hours, winning almost every one with never less than 2 pair, and at least 10 sets. He showed pocket Qs and Ks once each. I had a hand very similar to yours in the 5th hour, on the button with KJs. I had raised and flopped top pair, and by the river it was just the 2 of us. I was thinking he probably had me beat, but I also thought this guy had been really lucky and he can't have a set every time. I bet, he called, and he showed KT and I took the pot.
These players can make you second guess yourself, but unless you have seen them play enough hands to know they won't call the turn without a great hand, I think making the value bet is the money play. You do have the advantage of never fearing the raise. Basically you need to figure out the calling standards and bet/check accordingly.
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