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Old 05-30-2004, 12:11 PM     Post subject: LHE: Some horribly played hands... #1 (permalink)  
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Preflop: Fnord is UTG with 9, 9.
Fnord raises, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) T, J, K (3 players)
BB checks, Fnord bets, UTG+1 calls, BB calls.

Turn: (4.75 BB) 6 (3 players)
BB checks, Fnord bets, UTG+1 raises, BB folds, Fnord calls.

River: (8.75 BB) J (2 players)
Fnord checks, UTG+1 bets, Fnord folds.

Final Pot: 9.75 BB

Results in white below:
UTG+1 doesn't show.
Outcome: UTG+1 wins 9.75 BB.

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Preflop: Fnord is BB with Q, 9. MP3 posts a blind of $2.
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 (poster) checks, CO calls, Button calls, SB completes, Fnord checks.

Flop: (7 SB) 9, Q, 8 (7 players)
SB checks, Fnord bets, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO raises, Button 3-bets, SB folds, Fnord caps, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, CO calls, Button calls.

Turn: (13.50 BB) K (5 players)
Fnord checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, CO checks, Button bets, Fnord calls, UTG+1 calls $2.50 (All-In), MP2 calls, CO raises, Button calls, Fnord calls, MP2 calls.

River: (22.12 BB) 7 (5 players, 1 all-in)
Fnord checks, MP2 checks, CO bets, Button folds, Fnord calls, MP2 folds.

Final Pot: 24.12 BB

Results in white below:
Fnord shows Qc 9h (two pair, queens and nines).
UTG+1 shows Qs Ks (two pair, kings and queens).
CO shows Tc Jd (straight, king high).
Outcome: CO wins 24.12 BB.

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Preflop: Fnord is UTG with A, 5.
Fnord calls, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, CO folds, Button calls, SB folds, BB raises, Fnord calls, Button calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) J, A, T (3 players)
BB bets, Fnord calls, Button folds.

Turn: (4.25 BB) 5 (2 players)
BB bets, Fnord raises, BB 3-bets, Fnord calls.

River: (10.25 BB) 4 (2 players)
BB bets, Fnord calls.

Final Pot: 12.25 BB

Results in white below:
Fnord shows Ad 5d (two pair, aces and fives).
BB shows Qc Kc (straight, ace high).
Outcome: BB wins 12.25 BB.

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Preflop: Fnord is CO with K, A.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, Fnord raises, Button folds, SB (WeakTight) 3-bets, BB folds, Fnord calls.

Flop: (7 SB) 5, 2, 8 (2 players)
WeakTight bets, Fnord calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 8 (2 players)
WeakTight bets, Fnord calls.

River: (6.50 BB) K (2 players)
WeakTight bets, Fnord raises, WeakTight calls.

Final Pot: 10.50 BB

Results in white below:
WeakTight shows Ac Ad (two pair, aces and eights).
Fnord shows Kd As (two pair, kings and eights).
Outcome: WeakTight wins 10.50 BB.

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Preflop: Fnord is MP2 with K, A.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 folds, Fnord raises, MP3 calls, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB (WeakTight) folds, UTG+2 calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) Q, 8, 5 (3 players)
UTG+2 bets, Fnord calls, MP3 raises, UTG+2 calls, Fnord calls.

Turn: (6.75 BB) A (3 players)
UTG+2 bets, Fnord calls, MP3 raises, UTG+2 calls, Fnord calls.

River: (12.75 BB) J (3 players)
UTG+2 checks, Fnord checks, MP3 bets, UTG+2 calls, Fnord calls.

Final Pot: 15.75 BB

Results in white below:
UTG+2 shows Ad Jd (two pair, aces and jacks).
Fnord shows Kh Ah (one pair, aces).
MP3 shows Kd Td (straight, ace high).
Outcome: MP3 wins 15.75 BB.

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Preflop: Fnord is BB with J, 4.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 (WeakTight) folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 raises, CO folds, Button folds, SB calls, Fnord calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (8 SB) Q, T, 8 (4 players)
SB checks, Fnord checks, MP2 folds, MP3 bets, SB folds, Fnord calls.

Turn: (5 BB) 4 (2 players)
Fnord checks, MP3 bets, Fnord calls.

River: (7 BB) 8 (2 players)
Fnord checks, MP3 bets, Fnord folds.

Final Pot: 8 BB

Results in white below:
MP3 doesn't show.
Outcome: MP3 wins 8 BB.

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Preflop: Fnord is BB with Q, 8.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, Fnord checks.

Flop: (2.50 SB) 2, A, J (2 players)
Fnord checks, MP2 bets, Fnord raises, MP2 calls.

Turn: (3.25 BB) 9 (2 players)
Fnord bets, MP2 calls.

River: (5.25 BB) 6 (2 players)
Fnord checks, MP2 bets, Fnord folds.

Final Pot: 6.25 BB

Results in white below:
MP2 doesn't show.
Outcome: MP2 wins 6.25 BB.
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Old 05-31-2004, 07:15 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Wow Fnord some stinkers in there!
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Old 06-02-2004, 09:24 PM #3 (permalink)  
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AK...AQ...AJ....I was curious to see how many players play these hands when they completely miss the flop. I'll raise preflop with all these hands and if checked to me on the flop I'll bet (unless I'm in early position). If someone bets anything bigger than 2xBB I'm out regardless of what the board shows.
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Old 06-02-2004, 11:58 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Quote:
Originally Posted by doubleup
AK...AQ...AJ....I was curious to see how many players play these hands when they completely miss the flop. I'll raise preflop with all these hands and if checked to me on the flop I'll bet (unless I'm in early position). If someone bets anything bigger than 2xBB I'm out regardless of what the board shows.
With AK in a 2-3 way pot, I'm inclined to see the turn unless I have a good reason not to. Maybe even hang around for showdown.

AK's best matchup is against hands it dominates like AQ, AJ, AT, KQ, etc. Many times AK takes it down in that matchup unimproved, so if you fold too easy you're dropping a winner. Also, if you're in a raised pot, you have (implied) pot odds on at least seeing the turn to make a pair if you don't think you're already drawing dead or into tainted outs.

In the first AK hand I got 3-bet. The player who did that was a strong, tight multi-table. He could have done it as an isolation/deception move, but likely he had AA/KK/QQ/AK. I really should have folded here when the flop missed since I was likely to either split or be on 3 or fewer outs. However, I called him down and got a little information. Curious that he didn't re-raise me when the King hit...

In the second AK hand, I played it ok until the turn. I got trapped for 2 SB on the flop (ouch), then hit my Ace on the turn. I should have raised right there, or if I had doubts about my outs then folded to the raise on the flop. On the turn I had the best made hand. MP3 and I had the most pot equity with UTG+1 basically paying both of us off. Anyway, it was moot. MP3's draw was strong enough to keep him around and he hit the river.
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Old 06-03-2004, 01:28 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Ok cool, that's some valuable information. I'm assuming with AQ/AJ you drop them if the flop is missed?
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Originally Posted by doubleup
Ok cool, that's some valuable information. I'm assuming with AQ/AJ you drop them if the flop is missed?
It depends. Although I don't play AJo much.
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Old 06-03-2004, 05:21 PM #7 (permalink)  
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Another interesting hand. I think the other guy fancy played himself out of a pot, although I probably made a maginally bad call on the turn that worked out.

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Preflop: Fnord is Button with T, K.
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, Fnord raises, SB folds, BB folds, UTG+1 3-bets, Fnord calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) 6, A, 9 (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Fnord checks.

Turn: (3.75 BB) 8 (2 players)
UTG+1 bets, Fnord calls.

River: (5.75 BB) 7 (2 players)
UTG+1 bets, Fnord raises, UTG+1 calls.

Final Pot: 9.75 BB

Results in white below:
UTG+1 shows Kd As (one pair, aces).
Fnord shows Td Ks (straight, ten high).
Outcome: Fnord wins 9.75 BB.
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I agree, he cost himself this pot. This is why I absolutely hate slow playing cause it's so friggin complicated. This flop wasn't that threatening, so I can't say I wouldn't have slow played it myself. I just get PO'd when I lose slow playing, which is why most the time I try not to. It does have a big pay off in most situations though but it can also sting like a mofo.
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My thoughts... BTW, the table was playing tight.

My play
Preflop:
1 limper (somewhat short stack) and on the button. KTo is a poor hand, but it might be pretty good here. Raise beats calling since I might be able to take down the pot uncontested and it usually removes the small blind from the pot.

Oh #$%*& 3-bet. Need to nail the flop or fold.

Flop:
Damn, the flop missed me. Ace sucks too. Free card, weee!

Turn:
Gutshot. I figured I was getting 5 to 1 on my money by calling, however my gutshot alone is like 11 to 1. Implied odds don't even justify the call. However, if he has Queens my King might be good. His check on the flop is curious. Maybe if he has a set of aces we could cap the river if I hit.... Anyway I made a bad call here

River:
Money card, auto-raise.

His play

Pre-flop:
Limping from EP with AK. Odd choice, he attracts dominated hands, but might attract too many hands that might make him hit second best. The 3-bet is also curious. He gives away his hand out of position to only get 1 more small bet of my money into the pot.

Flop:
I think he put me on Ax and tried for the check-raise. If he bet out here I would have folded.

Turn:
Yup, defended his Ace. He got me to make a bad call, but I still think he's better off taking it down on the flop.

River:
Still thinks he's good, value bet turns into paying off my raise.
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