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chardrian
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02-01-2006, 03:13 AM
Post subject: (LC) Str8 frush becomes a Royal on river
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I rarely,if ever, get pms
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Paradise Poker 3/6 Hold'em (5 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx
Preflop: Hero is BB with J , 9.
UTG calls, MP calls, 1 fold, SB completes, Hero checks.
Flop: (4 SB) Q , T, K (4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, MP bets, SB folds, Hero calls, UTG raises, MP calls, Hero calls.
Turn: (5 BB) Q (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP bets, Hero calls, UTG raises, MP calls, Hero 3-bets, UTG caps, MP calls, Hero calls.
River: (17 BB) A (3 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls, MP folds.
Final Pot: 19 BB
Results in white below:
Hero has Jh 9h (straight flush, ace high).
UTG has Qc Ts (full house, queens full of tens).
Outcome: Hero wins 19 BB.
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Toad13
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Do you get a bonus for making a royal str8 flush?
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midas06
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I'd be pissed that the boat gave you credit for the royal and didn't give you any action on the river 
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Hate
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Flush
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Yeah...same here...
Would you guys play the same as UTG or would you raise? I'd think long and hard and possibly raise there...only one card beats me
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thenonsequitur
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Originally Posted by Hate
only one card beats me
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Not only does Jh beat UTG's queens full of tens, but so does pocket QK, AQ, KK, AA for a higher boat. AA/KK can be mostly discounted because of no preflop raise, but AQ is a hand some people might check in the BB, and KQ is a hand a lot of people would check in the big blind. I'm guessing UTG was more scared of a higher boat than the royal flush, but probably considered the royal as part of his decision to check.
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pokerfanatic
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the Ace killed your action...
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Demiparadigm
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bet the flop... seriously. No one is giving you credit for anything out of the bb in an unraised pot. you are either getting action or you aren't, might as well make the most of the action you can.
your turn play killed your river action more than the Ah ever could. It screams "nut flush" or better.
Finally, UTG capped the turn. this gives you free reighn on a checkraise. maybe he'll raise your river bet if he does have a boat, but I think I call there with QT also. your slowplay was too obvious.
Congrats on the royal though. I still haven't had one in over 2 years of play.
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Ltrain
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Originally Posted by Demiparadigm
Congrats on the royal though. I still haven't had one in over 2 years of play.
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I hit my first this weekend after 50K hands, hopefully they are going around.
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Hate
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Flush
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Hit my first last week after 25K hands
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chardrian
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I rarely,if ever, get pms
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Demiparadigm
bet the flop... seriously. No one is giving you credit for anything out of the bb in an unraised pot. you are either getting action or you aren't, might as well make the most of the action you can.
your turn play killed your river action more than the Ah ever could. It screams "nut flush" or better.
Finally, UTG capped the turn. this gives you free reighn on a checkraise. maybe he'll raise your river bet if he does have a boat, but I think I call there with QT also. your slowplay was too obvious.
Congrats on the royal though. I still haven't had one in over 2 years of play.
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Yup, I definitely lost value by not betting the flop harder. Problem with 5 handed though, is that players will cap a turn there with just trips and then retreat when it is obvious someone has a flush. I didn't want to check and lose a bet on the river.
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Miffed22001
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Straight Flush
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150k and still none....
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chardrian
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And mine was actually a royal plus 1 since I had the  as well.
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