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spoonitnow
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04-22-2006, 05:04 PM
Post subject: Laydown Question
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PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A , A .
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, 4 folds, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.
Flop: (6.40 SB) 3 , T, T (3 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 bets, Hero raises, BB folds, UTG+1 3-bets, Hero calls.
Turn: (6.20 BB) 2 (2 players)
UTG+1 bets, Hero ...
Easy laydown?
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
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Nehmer
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Kind of need a read on UTG+1 for this one, but I would say folding is almost never the right play here unless UTG+1 is very passive and easy to read. I find that most players will not 3-bet the flop with a ten in their hand and will instead wait to checkraise the turn. I'd put villain on a middle pocket pair here or maybe A3 and I would cap the flop and if he still comes out firing I'd call down.
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spoonitnow
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Okay, that makes sense. Thank you 
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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pokerfanatic
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4-of-a-Kind
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umm.. what can he call PF and then 3 bet the flop that you have beat.... umm, not much if anything...
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Ragnar4
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no flush draw, no straight draw, about the ONLY hand that he would limp, and then call with would be like TJ, QT, KT, and TT. 3 of those 4 hands, you can still catch up, and you aren't even positive you're behind.
Say he has 2 overs, like AK, and he's betting because a board like that you would have had to hit hard in order to be ahead.
I think it's auto call all the way down. AA has amazing equity against anything they are holding. just don't get into a pissing match unless the A comes on the River.
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The older I get, the more I start wondering; Just what in the hell is going on here? 
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pokerfanatic
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Originally Posted by Ragnar4
no flush draw, no straight draw, about the ONLY hand that he would limp, and then call with would be like TJ, QT, KT, and TT. 3 of those 4 hands, you can still catch up, and you aren't even positive you're behind.
Say he has 2 overs, like AK, and he's betting because a board like that you would have had to hit hard in order to be ahead.
I think it's auto call all the way down. AA has amazing equity against anything they are holding. just don't get into a pissing match unless the A comes on the River.
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i don't see why he would 3 bet AKo on this board? that would take a read on the player, it's one of those hands that with no read i'd put myself on 2 outs...
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“Dream as if you’ll live forever. Live as if you’ll die today.” ~ James Dean ~
"Poker is a lot like sex, peoples perceived ability usually blinds the truth" ~ me ~
"God bless him. Got to bet big to win big! GAMB00L!!!" ~ Fnord
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Miffed22001
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Straight Flush
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id like to call down a lot here unless against a super passive
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