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ArcticKnight

05-07-2005, 05:09 PM Post subject: Late night silliness on 10/20 Empire -

#1 (permalink)

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Join Date: Dec 2004

Location: golf course

Posts: 416

Some folks think they can push you around at higher limits with $, and some are just, well.......have a look...

One player was on tilt, the other was 82% VP$IP and raised everything.
The Q on the river scared the hell out me.

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 4 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with K

, K

.
1 fold, Hero raises, SB calls, BB 3-bets, Hero caps, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (12 SB) 8

, Q

, 2

(3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, SB calls, BB raises, Hero 3-bets, SB calls, BB calls.

Turn: (10.50 BB) J

(3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, SB calls, BB raises, Hero 3-bets, SB calls, BB calls.

River: (19.50 BB) Q

(3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 19.50 BB

Results in white below:
SB has Jh Kd (two pair, queens and jacks).
BB has Td Ah (one pair, queens).
Hero has Kh Kc (two pair, kings and queens).
Outcome: Hero wins 19.50 BB.

Dumb and dumber go HU

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP with J

, K

.
UTG raises, 1 fold, Button 3-bets, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (12 SB) T

, 9

, 2

(4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Button bets, SB calls, BB folds, UTG folds.

Turn: (7 BB) 4

(2 players)
SB checks, Button bets, SB raises, Button 3-bets, SB calls.

River: (13 BB) T

(2 players)
SB checks, Button bets, SB calls.

Final Pot: 15 BB

Results in white below:
SB has 2s Ks (two pair, tens and twos).
Button has Ah 5d (one pair, tens).
Outcome: SB wins 15 BB.

and again....

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with 4

, 4

. UTG posts a blind of $10.
MP calls, Button raises, 1 fold, UTG (poster) 3-bets, MP calls, Button caps, UTG calls, MP calls.

Flop: (12.50 SB) 7

, 2

, A

(4 players)
UTG checks, MP checks, Button bets, UTG calls, MP calls.

Turn: (7.75 BB) 8

(4 players)
UTG checks, MP bets, Button calls, UTG raises, MP 3-bets, Button folds, UTG calls $39.39 (All-In), MP calls.

River: (16.68 BB) 5

(3 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: 16.68 BB

Results in white below:
UTG has Tc 8c (one pair, eights).
MP has 7h 9s (one pair, sevens).
Outcome: UTG wins 16.68 BB.

Gone golfing ..see ya in the Fall of 2006
PS. What did the snail on the turtle's back say?
Wheeeeeeeee........

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Room

05-07-2005, 05:23 PM

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Join Date: Mar 2005

Posts: 197

Very interesting river check in hand 1. These players would have to be terrible to try for a c/r if they had a Q.

ArcticKnight

05-07-2005, 05:45 PM

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Join Date: Dec 2004

Location: golf course

Posts: 416

Quote:

Originally Posted by Room

Very interesting river check in hand 1. These players would have to be terrible to try for a c/r if they had a Q.

Hi Room

I thought about it afterwards. The problem with these two is that they played their misses hard, and then CR when they hit, and the Q scared the hell of out me. I mean, someone had to have AQ or KQ or JQ??

Room, I think you are right, I should have bet. But to be honest, I'm not sure if that if in the same situation with the same players again I could pull that trigger....

Probably not a good sign taht I know your are right, but still would be gun shy in this case.

Gone golfing ..see ya in the Fall of 2006
PS. What did the snail on the turtle's back say?
Wheeeeeeeee........

|~|ypermegachi

05-07-2005, 06:00 PM

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Join Date: Aug 2004

Location: emo-kid

Posts: 3,580

i play hand 1 the same. i think there are good chances someone has a queen out there. BB raised you twice, which suggests he can "probably" has top pair or better. all the SB did was call, which suggests a flush draw or a weak queen that he doesn't want to fold.

of course if you look at the results, conventional wisdom is way off. i don't know wtf these guys are smokin...but i wanna know what...cuz they had no business doing anything of what they did.

Room

05-08-2005, 09:12 PM

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Join Date: Mar 2005

Posts: 197

Assuming likely ranges of hands here, the interesting thing is you only beat AJ, KJ, JT, TT, 99, 77-33, 8x or 2x (which is probably unlikely) or a complete miss (ie, AT). I think you've defined your AA-KK very well here and if I were the SB or BB and had a queen, I'm leading this edit: RIVER as you will likely check through, fearing the Q. Under this thinking, I think you can bet this river for value - unless you think your oppenent knows that you know this and will c/r. Very interesting river hand.

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