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Old 10-25-2005, 06:48 PM     Post subject: large pot, scary river card, what's your play here? #1 (permalink)  
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Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J, J. CO posts a blind of $2.
2 folds, Hero raises, 1 fold, MP3 3-bets, CO (poster) calls, 1 fold, SB calls, BB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (15 SB) J, T, Q (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, MP3 calls, CO raises, SB calls, BB folds, Hero 3-bets, MP3 calls, CO caps, SB calls, Hero calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (15.50 BB) Q (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, MP3 raises, CO calls, SB calls, Hero 3-bets, MP3 calls, CO calls, SB folds.

River: (26.50 BB) Q (3 players)
Hero....????
 
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Old 10-25-2005, 06:50 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Wow that river sucked!

I think I wimp out and check/call here.
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Old 10-25-2005, 06:56 PM #3 (permalink)  
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MP3 would 3-bet AQ/KQ? and call a cap w/TPTK/top two pair on that board?
I'd bet and call the 3-bet if it comes
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Old 10-25-2005, 06:59 PM #4 (permalink)  
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MP3 would 3-bet AQ/KQ? and call a cap w/TPTK/top two pair on that board?
I'd bet and call the 3-bet if it comes
This is why reads are nice. I'm certain one of them has AK. However, you're really hoping the other guy has AK or TT.
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Old 10-25-2005, 07:04 PM #5 (permalink)  
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wow that is a bad river , i think you may get a tie or may be beat, i would check call , you could be a head but i dunno what are the stakes this is on party poker though
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Old 10-25-2005, 07:09 PM #6 (permalink)  
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check/call is quite possibly the best line here, you're likely to be beat, but the pot is too large to fold
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Old 10-25-2005, 07:16 PM #7 (permalink)  
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Fnord, yeah, that's what I thought, one has AK and the other TT
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Old 10-25-2005, 07:59 PM #8 (permalink)  
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what about AA/KK? those were other possibilities I considered, as they both beat me on the river too.
 
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Old 10-25-2005, 08:13 PM #9 (permalink)  
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Also reads. would CO not cap KK/AA?
Would MP3 not raise/cap AA or KK on that flop?
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Old 10-26-2005, 05:06 PM #10 (permalink)  
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results:

we all check it down, both players show AK, I take down the pot.

i was just wondering if maybe I missed an opprotunity for a couple more bets,and I think maybe bet/calling would have been a better line here.
 
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Old 10-26-2005, 05:11 PM #11 (permalink)  
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umm i think i lead call a raise... (edit: didn't notice the results when i made my post)

shit that looks a lot like one of my hands...

and my river call was bad and i should have raised the flop i know...

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: pkrfanatic is BB with J, K.
UTG raises, 2 folds, MP3 calls, CO calls, 1 fold, SB calls, pkrfanatic calls.

Flop: (10 SB) Q, Q, J (6 players)
SB checks, pkrfanatic checks, UTG bets, MP3 calls, CO folds, SB calls, pkrfanatic calls.

Turn: (7 BB) Q (5 players)
SB checks, pkrfanatic checks, UTG bets, MP3 folds, SB calls, pkrfanatic raises, UTG folds, SB calls.

River: (12 BB) Q (3 players)
SB bets, pkrfanatic calls.

Final Pot: 14 BB

Results in white below:
SB has Ac 8h (four of a kind, queens).
pkrfanatic has Js Kh (four of a kind, queens).
MP1 doesn't show.
Outcome: SB wins 7 BB. pkrfanatic wins 7 BB.
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Old 10-26-2005, 05:25 PM #12 (permalink)  
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pokerfanatic

Results in white below:
SB has Ac 8h (four of a kind, queens).
pkrfanatic has Js Kh (four of a kind, queens).
MP1 doesn't show.
Outcome: SB wins 7 BB. pkrfanatic wins 7 BB.
how did you get a split in this situation? wouldn't the SB have 4 queens with an ace kicker, beating your 4 queens with a king kicker?
 
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Old 10-26-2005, 07:32 PM #13 (permalink)  
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Quote:
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Results in white below:
SB has Ac 8h (four of a kind, queens).
pkrfanatic has Js Kh (four of a kind, queens).
MP1 doesn't show.
Outcome: SB wins 7 BB. pkrfanatic wins 7 BB.
how did you get a split in this situation? wouldn't the SB have 4 queens with an ace kicker, beating your 4 queens with a king kicker?
My thoughts exactly...
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Lets stop talking ABC poker and move on to D, E, and F.
 
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Old 10-27-2005, 12:06 AM #14 (permalink)  
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Preflop: Hero is Button with T, K.
5 folds, Hero raises, SB calls, BB 3-bets, Hero calls, SB calls.

Flop: (9 SB) Q, K, Q (4 players)
SB checks, BB bets, Hero raises, SB folds, BB calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) Q (3 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, BB calls.

River: (10.50 BB) Q (3 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 12.50 BB

Results in white below:
BB has 6s Ad (four of a kind, queens).
MP3 doesn't show.
Hero has Ts Kh (four of a kind, queens).
Outcome: Hero wins 6.25 BB. BB wins 6.25 BB.
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Old 10-27-2005, 12:10 AM #15 (permalink)  
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Old 10-27-2005, 12:11 AM #16 (permalink)  
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Quote:
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we all check it down, both players show AK, I take down the pot.
Fnord read hands g00t.

Per betting the river, it's tough and it's one of those spots where I might check all the while my inner TAniac is saying VALUE BET! I really want to know more about my opponents to try to rationalize some kind of bet/fold or bet/call line.
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Old 10-27-2005, 03:05 AM #17 (permalink)  
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Um, in Dwarfman's hand why doesn't BB take the pot with the Ace kicker vs. his King Kicker? Why do they split? I'm confused....
Come give me advice.
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Um, in Dwarfman's hand why doesn't BB take the pot with the Ace kicker vs. his King Kicker? Why do they split? I'm confused....
Yeah, oddly enough same thing happened in pokerfanatic's post. Is this a bug on Party?
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Old 10-27-2005, 12:49 PM #19 (permalink)  

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yah i think its a bug iv seen 2 pair split before @ empire
board was 2 pair and something low and it split pot even when someone had higher kicker
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Um, in Dwarfman's hand why doesn't BB take the pot with the Ace kicker vs. his King Kicker? Why do they split? I'm confused....
Yeah, oddly enough same thing happened in pokerfanatic's post. Is this a bug on Party?
The converter probably doesn't read it right.
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Old 10-27-2005, 03:46 PM #21 (permalink)  
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Quote:
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pokerfanatic

Results in white below:
SB has Ac 8h (four of a kind, queens).
pkrfanatic has Js Kh (four of a kind, queens).
MP1 doesn't show.
Outcome: SB wins 7 BB. pkrfanatic wins 7 BB.
how did you get a split in this situation? wouldn't the SB have 4 queens with an ace kicker, beating your 4 queens with a king kicker?
maybe you should read my note about the river before you ask questions...

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and my river call was bad and i should have raised the flop i know...
In other words i played it bad you don't need to point it out to me... I know my river call was bad you want a cookie?
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Old 10-27-2005, 04:02 PM #22 (permalink)  
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maybe you should read my note about the river before you ask questions...

He was asking how it was techincally split when he had a better hand. Valium man, pop a few and call me in the morning
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Old 10-27-2005, 05:28 PM #23 (permalink)  
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I think you have to check/call here. If I am holding a hand you beat, it is an easy fold for me.
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