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| Fnord |
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StitzDogg is a smart, aggressive, balanced player and hand reader who plays bigger games. He probably makes that call with any pair and is certainly capable of raising a wider range than trips. My image is sTAgg PokerStars Game #10410003625: 5 Card Draw Limit ($3/$6) - 2007/06/13 - 01:08:05 (ET) Table 'Kajam V' 6-max Seat #5 is the button Seat 1: StitzDogg ($100 in chips) Seat 2: chopchop25 ($170 in chips) Seat 3: stiff queen ($126 in chips) Seat 4: Alfons D ($79 in chips) Seat 5: COKeefe88 ($74 in chips) Seat 6: Fnord ($329 in chips) Fnord: posts small blind $1 StitzDogg: posts big blind $3 *** DEALING HANDS *** Dealt to Fnord [9c Td Ah 3d 9d] chopchop25: folds stiff queen: folds Alfons D: folds COKeefe88: folds Fnord: raises $3 to $6 StitzDogg: calls $3 Fnord: discards 3 cards [Td Ah 3d] Dealt to Fnord [9c 9d] [3c 9h 8c] StitzDogg: discards 3 cards Fnord: bets $6 StitzDogg: raises $6 to $12 Fnord considers a re-raise... |
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| dsaxton |
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| Even if he always has trips here, you should probably reraise (the fact that he didn't 3-bet before the draw makes it less likely he has premium trips). If there's a small chance he raises with some two pair hands as well, I would definitely reraise. It's unlikely he folds for one more bet many of the hands with which he's willing to raise, so you shouldn't be too concerned about there not being value in a 3-bet. | ||
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| topsoyale |
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I'm putting him on lower trips to be making this play. Rearaise for me. |
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| zenbitz |
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| If you 3-bet and he caps, do you fold? (Not saying you should 3bet or not) | ||
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| bigspenda73 |
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I'll preface this by saying I am new to 5cd but I have read a bit on it in the past including all the references in ToP to it. I've been trying to think deeper about hand ranges and how they change from street to street in hold'em. Either way I just wanted to type a resposnse to this cuz I know I'll get feedback either way and I need to hear it. The question here is what is this players range for: A. calling before the draw and raising after it B. calling/raising/folding in refernece to your 3bet post-draw I think you'll find (Fnord you know) that all worser hands except for lower trips are folding here and some trips are even folding. Why? well, if he is a competent player he knows you have a mid-to-high pair pre-draw. Leading post-draw does not do much to influence your own range but once he raises your next action definitely changes your range. In all actuality though leading post-draw declares you can beat smaller pairs. You range for calling his raise is probably Kings up and low trips(however I'm not sure if you raise 22-66 pre-draw in a blind battle). Your range for raising his bet should be higer trips and boats. However, should it really be this? What do we expect him to call a post-draw 3bet that we beat? Well most-likely trips 22-66. However, a thinking player could possibly fold the smaller trips and would certainly fold 2pr type hands if he is paying attention and if your image is solid. All in all I'm not sure that 3betting is the right play here mainly b/c if we get capped I actually think you have to fold this as his range for capping post-draw after drawing 3 is absolutely killing you and even with great odds I don't think it's a +EV play. |
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| Pelion |
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Does the fact that its a blind battle influence him to call much more often with Kings up/ Aces up? If you are raising 9s pre-here then he is certainly going to be raising high 2 pairs after the draw and I doubt he folds AA22 or KK22 here that often to a reraise in a blind vs blind situation. Ive never played as high as 3/6 though and I havnt played against many "smart aggressive" players. I would reraise here but Im not sure how to react if he comes over the top again. Id imagine his range there totally crushes you but I dont know if I could fold getting such big odds. |
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gabe: Ive dropped almost 100k in the past 35 days.
bigspenda73: But how much did you win?
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| flomo |
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not knowing what he thinks of your table image i would have just called it and not reraised after he raised but hten again i'm a nitty calling station remember i suck at all things poker trip J's ? |
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| bigspenda73 |
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| So wuddya end up doin? | ||
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So you click their picture and then you get their money?
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| Fnord |
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I called with the best hand, I think he had a big two pair. For what it's worth, players in this game don't raise and fold to a 3-bet very often. Special bonus, common player archtypes: o Terrible player that plays too many hands and calls too much o Terrible player that plays too many hands and bets a lot post-flop o Hold'em player that tries to run-over the table. Raises all of his draws, bets out a lot and attacks with very little in blind/button fights. o Nitty player who goes by a table with a few little quirks (pay attention to them), but tends to fold to aggression too often (won't call-down light, won't value bet a wide enough range.) Pay attention to if they do bluff because tight post-flop betters will mix in bluffs with their trips. |
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| TLR |
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| Fnord, in your experience when a player who is not especially tight raised before the draw and then stand pat how often do they have a str8 or better and how often they have 2 pair or total air ? | ||
 
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