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KQs in the SB, 4handed..
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mike4066
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12-03-2005, 02:26 PM
Post subject: KQs in the SB, 4handed..
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4-of-a-Kind
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Button is a loose charity case who's already donated his stack, looks to be trying to go all-in.
BB 55/16, a bit agro post flop, but nothing I would consider "out of line"
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Seat 6: CutOff
Seat 7: Button
Seat 9: mike4066
Seat 10: BB
ANTES/BLINDS
mike4066 posts blind ($1), BB posts blind ($2).
mike4066 is is SB with [ Kc,Qc ].
PRE-FLOP
CutOff folds, Button calls, mike4066 raises, BB calls, Button 3-bets, mike4066 calls, BB calls.
FLOP [ 8s,10d,Qd ]
mike4066 checks, BB bets, Button calls $1 (All-In), mike4066 raises, BB 3-bets, mike4066 calls.
TURN [ Ah ]
mike4066 checks, BB bets, mike4066 calls.
RIVER [ Kh ]
mike4066 checks, BB bets, mike4066 calls.
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ihategnomes
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Hell, I might just call down to see what could be limped raised on the button
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mike4066
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I think there are a few different lines you oculd take in this hand, i think i butchered it on the flop.
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pokerfanatic
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by ihategnomes
Hell, I might just call down to see what could be limped raised on the button 
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lol that is kinda funny i'm sure it's Ax or something shitty...
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thenonsequitur
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I play it the same.
I like the flop check-raise. Your hand is usually best and you want to trap BB for an extra bet. A somewhat aggro player will 3-bet many hands you beat (e.g. JT, QJ, KT, KJ,  , possibly some others), as well as a few you don't (J9, two pair). Because BB just called your pre-flop raise, many dangerous holdings he could have are unlikely (e.g. AT+, 88+).
The turn card would make KJ beat you, but I'm not too concerned with BB having an A. As I pointed out above, I think he would have preflop-3-bet his bigger aces, and not flop-3-bet his smaller aces. I think you still beat a good number of hands this player will lead the turn with, and you now have a gutshot draw. And the pot is medium sized now. Because there is a good chance BB is still on draw and/or has a weak pair, I am really tempted to donk it to avoid giving a free card. At the same time, the board is starting to get scary, I am not that confident that villian is on draw, and you might get a weaker hand to turn-bet+river-bet by calling down, where a bet now might get a weaker hand to turn-call/fold+river-fold. So check/call is still probably best.
The river completes J-draws and you are often behind but the pot size and your 2-pair warrent a call.
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